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mcsneed17
09-08-2005, 03:12 PM
which is better vallejo,games workshop or reaper paints? :2:

Sakura
09-08-2005, 03:52 PM
I like Vallejo better, but I never tried Reaper paints. Gw paints are a bit impractical, they dry up too fast and often the cover isn't so good.

Ritual
09-08-2005, 04:16 PM
I think dropper bottles are much better than the paint pots GW uses, but there's nothing wrong with the actual paint. I haven't tried Reaper paints either, but as far as I heard the master series is really good.

I use lots of greys and browns when I paint so Vallejo Model Colors are perfect for me.

Valloa
09-08-2005, 10:15 PM
I personally prefer the Reaper Master Series Paints (NOT their propaints!!). I've used Vallejos and found that the Reaper is sooo much easier for me to work with and seems to take to extreme thinning better. If you do go with Vallejo or another brand, pick up some of their metallics, that stuff is *extremely* fine with the metallic flake grind and mixes well with other paint brands.


Maya~

Gonzoangel
09-08-2005, 11:00 PM
Slowly getting rid of all the GW paints cos they're just so.. :tapedshut ...and replacing with either Vallejo's or Reaper's which in my opinion are soooooo much better.

Frustrated Father
09-09-2005, 12:06 AM
I have GW, Vallejo and a few Reaper Masters and use them all pretty equally, but find that I like the dropper bottles a lot more than the pots which tend to either stick on me or dry out because I didn't screw the top on just right (though I like the new pop top on the GW stuff).

That said, I have a problem with some of my Vallejo's where the writing on the labels seem to disapear rather easily so I find myself wondering what the hell color I've got (after I shake the heck out of it) and I've had two (out of 30) that have the dropper tops come off every time I open the things, which is mildly annoying and somewhat messy if I'm not paying attention.

MY GW and Vallejo stuff I thin pretty well, and although I haven't used it too much yet, the Reaper Masters seem to need very little thinning and have a higher pigment ratio which seems to go on rather nice.

mcsneed17
09-09-2005, 02:46 PM
the reason i asked the question is that i have all three paints but i just looked at my games workshop paints and found that most if not all of have dried -up with the execptions such as their inks and certain colors everything else has dried up but there is one company which i forgot about which has not dried up and that is the old warzone paints which are still good.

Joker
09-10-2005, 09:23 AM
It depends on the painter, really, I have GW and Vallejo Model, along with some Apple Barrel and Ceramcoat as well. A good painted can get decent if not amazing results with different brands.

Just as an Example, the Slayer Sword winning Terminator Squad from Baltimore Games Day this year was painted by Scott Bowser. According to Scott all the FANTASTIC NMM [gold and silver] was painted exclusively with Apple Barrel and Ceramcoat, two of the traditionally most sneered-at brands of model paint.

EricJ
09-12-2005, 02:51 PM
I'm pretty much a GW paint guy, although I admit I hate the paint pots...so I always dump the paint into other containers for use, seemed like an easy enough solution to use the paint I like without the containers I hate! :)

I use the old Ral Partha paint/Ironwind Metal paint pots. They're softer plastic which seals really nice, never sticks and you can still paint out of the caps...like I do... although I never will admit to it

Spacemunkie
09-12-2005, 02:58 PM
...and you can still paint out of the caps...like I do... although I never will admit to it

Hahaha! That's why I've started using Coat D'Arms again! I like Vallejo paint, but call me bone-bleeding-idle, it's a pain in the arse always unscrewing, droppering, rescrewing.

With Coaties I just shake and POP! Paint straight from the lid. OH YEAH! Like the vinyly consistency too.

EricJ
09-12-2005, 03:03 PM
yep, I CANT STAND droppers, I'm a cap man until my last day!

I think it's because I never clean my palate (or as some people call it, my Warhammer fantasy movement tray caked in paint), and it's about a 9-11mm thick now in places, if I used a dropper all that unused paint I think would make this scheme unmanageable.

Ritual
09-12-2005, 03:19 PM
@Eric
That's why I buy new pallettes all the time... ;)

EricJ
09-12-2005, 03:23 PM
yeah, but it's my magic palate....THIS (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/EricJ/Painting/Firstminipost.jpg) is how I painted before I found it

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/EricJ/Random%20photos/Palate.jpg

notice the paint in the center is now higher than the edges...

Ritual
09-12-2005, 04:01 PM
Superstitious, are you? :vb_devil:

EricJ
09-12-2005, 05:27 PM
ummmmm, yes

Frustrated Father
09-12-2005, 06:20 PM
I like those old pop tops - got three or four of them myself still from WAAAY back and I love them. Any way to buy those empty?

Hell of a paint pallet Eric - use a plate myself.

Klute
09-12-2005, 06:56 PM
GW mostly.....I have a few VMC but couldn't get away with them.??
The newer flip tops are OK if you remember to keep em closed.
Those screw on fekkers had me spewing ink everywhere though.

Celtic Lilly
09-13-2005, 10:53 AM
Everything I have is GW, and most of it is passed down stuff with that screw on lid and just about every last one of them has teeth marks or plier marks where I've had to force my way into the pot.

:canabis:

Spacemunkie
09-13-2005, 12:06 PM
I took all mine into my local GW and gave them to a couple of kids. There was nearly 70 pots - they thought I was mental I think, but they were sat around drying out...

Staff looked a little dis-chuffed too :thumb:

Duende
09-13-2005, 10:47 PM
I used to use those Delta Ceramcoat craft paints that you can buy at Wal-Mart, and never realized how much they sucked until I finally got some Vallejo MC's. Now I don't know how I ever managed with those other paints. Grumb also gave me a bottle of ? Reaper Masters ?, I'm not sure, it didn't have a label and the bottle is near identical to Vallejo's. It's a nice shade of red, though. Red's my fav color! Thanks, Grumb!

:tea:

Those old screw-off caps GW used to sell, I think were just a clever marketing ploy on GW's part. Sure, the paint would dry out faster, then you have to go buy more!

EVIL! :evil:

Mosch
09-14-2005, 08:13 AM
I mainly use Vallejo game colour - I just can't for the life of me take two equal portions of paint from two paint pots. Also, when I started painting, GW sold the screw tops. Nuff said.

I would like to try some Reaper paints, but they are near impossible to get here in Germany.

Frustrated Father
09-14-2005, 11:38 AM
I mainly use Vallejo game colour - I just can't for the life of me take two equal portions of paint from two paint pots. Also, when I started painting, GW sold the screw tops. Nuff said.

I would like to try some Reaper paints, but they are near impossible to get here in Germany.


If you want Mosch, I can pick some up for you (or order from Wyvern Games LLC - very nice people) and see about getting you an order of paints of there at the actual cost of S/H and all that. None of that added BS in charges.

EricJ
09-14-2005, 11:44 AM
LOL, they should just add that on the order, I think I'd respect it more.

Somthing like:

Sub total: $50.95
Sales Tax: $4.15
Shipping: $5.25
BS Charge: $17.75

Total: $71.10

Valloa
09-14-2005, 12:07 PM
If you want Mosch, I can pick some up for you (or order from Wyvern Games LLC - very nice people) and see about getting you an order of paints of there at the actual cost of S/H and all that. None of that added BS in charges.


Yepyep. If you, or anyone on these boards for that matter, want Reapers or anything in the Wyvern store I'll be happy to give you a quote with exact shipping (or let you know if shippings free for your order amount). Just pokey me here or through Wyvern Email. We're 20% off retail for Reaper and have discounts on most of our other items too.

Maya~

Frustrated Father
09-14-2005, 12:08 PM
:rippedhan


(laughing)

Ack, have to come in here and edit as Maya beat me to posting. Was posting about the 'BS charges' up there by Eric. Heh.

Valloa
09-14-2005, 12:11 PM
:rippedhan


(laughing)

Ack, have to come in here and edit as Maya beat me to posting. Was posting about the 'BS charges' up there by Eric. Heh.



Hehehe. That was amusing.


Maya~

EricJ
09-14-2005, 12:21 PM
And the best part is you don't know if it's the charge that is BS, or if they're charging for their BS...

This is the first I've heard of wyvern games, I may have to take you up on your offer Maya :)

I noticed you handle GW items on your site, do you deal with Forgeworld at all? (not holding my breath)

Frustrated Father
09-14-2005, 12:29 PM
And the best part is you don't know if it's the charge that is BS, or if they're charging for their BS...

This is the first I've heard of wyvern games, I may have to take you up on your offer Maya :)

I noticed you handle GW items on your site, do you deal with Forgeworld at all? (not holding my breath)

Link is on the front of the site - as they are supporters of the Wyrd Painting Contests (actually, truth be known, the knackered me into doing the Total Testosterone one and here we are today - blame them).

:D

EricJ
09-14-2005, 12:52 PM
:stupido2: I am not always the most observant

Valloa
09-14-2005, 08:26 PM
And the best part is you don't know if it's the charge that is BS, or if they're charging for their BS...

This is the first I've heard of wyvern games, I may have to take you up on your offer Maya :)

I noticed you handle GW items on your site, do you deal with Forgeworld at all? (not holding my breath)


Nae. Can't help with the Forgeworld stuff. :(


Maya~