Iron Painter V: THE FINAL

[supervike]

DING DING!!


Hello paintfans, it's been an exciting season of Iron Painter, but it ain't over yet!

We've reached the FINALE, the big Climax!!


In this corner we have the master of scratchbuild, the rat loving French phenom...


MOAVOAMOATU!!



Staring intently from across the ring is the Minnesota Mayhem, the FFG Guru, the terror of terrain...


BEXLEY!!!

But wait!!! We've got more corners in the triangle of Terror!

From the old Blighty, the smackey of the smack talkers the Proud Pappa, and the darkhorse


DARKLORD!!!


Three men enter, only one man will leave! And he will be the IRON PAINTER CHAMPION!


The theme, keeping our musical theme within the theme:

BEAST OF BURDEN

How you interpret that is completely up to you...as always its about pleasing the judges!

DEADLINE IS 6pm CST

JULY 20th

Will Bexley be the first male Iron Painter?

Will Moavoamoatu convince that rat of his to help?

Will Darklord continue to surprise us all?


All this and more will be answered in this the final round of the 5th season of Iron Painter.

Which begins....


NOW!!!

[Moavoamoatu]

Thanks Supervike that was fast and I already have my idea.....it's a long story.

Good luck mates.

Remember Bexley, you will have to show us your face and leave the mask if you win.

If I win I will tell you what my stupid name means.....another long story.

[Bexley]

Will Bexley be the first male Iron Painter?

Will Moavoamoatu convince that rat of his to help?

Will Darklord continue to surprise us all?

Heh. Are you insinuating that if Moavoamoatu or Darklord won, we wouldn't have a male winner?

[Bexley]

I think I know what I'm going to do. Probably. I have to look at it when I get home. I suspect it might just be too much to do in two weeks, though.

[Moavoamoatu]

I think I know what I'm going to do. Probably. I have to look at it when I get home. I suspect it might just be too much to do in two weeks, though.

Same for me as it would represent 8 to 10 miniatures to paint. But I'll give it a try. Only one miniature is missing.....

[Darklord]

i have two ideas so far for this, both involve converting/sculpting, one a serious entry the other a comic one so do i go with comedy thats sneaked me in this far or do i what i always set out to do each round and push my skills with a normal piece?
either way you'll be pleased to know neither involves greenskins!!

[Moavoamoatu]

No Greenskins ??? Such a shame...I'll paint greenskins for you :D

[Bexley]

So, if I win, I post a picture of my face. Moavoamoatu has to explain his name.

Darklord? Hello?

[Darklord]

hello!

[Duzzdan]

Been some really outstanding entries this season. Can't wait to see what you guys come up with for this one.

[Darklord]

welll not going for either of my first 2 ideas, but it will still be comedy and still no greenskins

[demonherald]

Is it me or is this just like the IPIV final theme???

looking forward to this one you three...no pressure....:p:

[Darklord]

i thought the same Rob, one idea did resemble something similar to one of those entries, could have been yours actually!!

[Moavoamoatu]

Been some really outstanding entries this season. Can't wait to see what you guys come up with for this one.

I am on it....

[Darklord]

will be some more name dropping on mine again

[supervike]

Is it me or is this just like the IPIV final theme???

.:p:


It's NOTHING like that....now back...back in your hole!!!

[Darklord]

It's NOTHING like that....now back...back in your hole!!!

is he a hobbit? always thought he was taller than that!!

[Moavoamoatu]

is he a hobbit? always thought he was taller than that!!

Nope...he is Gollum :D

[demonherald]

Nope...he is Gollum :D

I'm actually approaching that form the amount of daylight I haven't seen a lately.. even got a couple of whip marks on the back .. I've basically caught up on approx 4 months of painting in two weeks.. And as the Fire gets back in my blood I'm starting a Slew of new projects including GDUK entries and of Course Total Testosterone.


rooooooooooaaaaarrrrrrrrr..

[Darklord]

well its raining so no work on the garden so get to start my entry, fair bit of conversion, some sculpting and half will be scratchbuilt so best get moving!!
oh and be warned guys, this could well be my best ever entry!!

[Moavoamoatu]

Still working on my entry : I already painted 2 out of 10 miniatures but no conversion or scratchbuilt this time. In fact it's a project I had since ages and it's coming to life for the final round.

I don't know if I'll have enough time to post an entry in Total Testosterone (I had 3 projects for this contest).

[demonherald]

hmmm lookig forward to that... as long as it wasnt started ages ago Mo??? you know the rules lad.. also what's this wimpiness not entering TT all about?? Iron painters don't hide from other comps behind IP.. Iron painters enter all.. now enough nonsense and I wanna see your final piece and your TT entries and all your secret stuff and all in 2 weeks...Wuss.:p:

[Moavoamoatu]

hmmm lookig forward to that... as long as it wasnt started ages ago Mo??? you know the rules lad.. also what's this wimpiness not entering TT all about?? Iron painters don't hide from other comps behind IP.. Iron painters enter all.. now enough nonsense and I wanna see your final piece and your TT entries and all your secret stuff and all in 2 weeks...Wuss.:p:

I mainly use old Citadel miniatures from the early 90s for this entry. I wanted to make a diorama with these miniatures but had no time or opportunity to do it before.

To be honest I really don't know if I'll have time for my TT entry as it involves not less than 10 miniatures for one entry and 6 for the other one (I just forget the third one). So it means painting 10+10+6 = 26 miniatures with painting contest standards in less than 2 weeks !!!!! If it was for a wargame it would not take much time. My wife found it better to go shopping with her yesterday, to invite my sister in law today and to invite friends next week. I just don't speak about my job. So I don't know if I'll find enough time to paint 26 miniatures in 2 weeks and IP is the priority.

BTW if I can't post in time for TT I will post in the miniatures showcase, just for fun.

[demonherald]

I mainly use old Citadel miniatures from the early 90s for this entry. I wanted to make a diorama with these miniatures but had no time or opportunity to do it before.

To be honest I really don't know if I'll have time for my TT entry as it involves not less than 10 miniatures for one entry and 6 for the other one (I just forget the third one). So it means painting 10+10+6 = 26 miniatures with painting contest standards in less than 2 weeks !!!!! If it was for a wargame it would not take much time. My wife found it better to go shopping with her yesterday, to invite my sister in law today and to invite friends next week. I just don't speak about my job. So I don't know if I'll find enough time to paint 26 miniatures in 2 weeks and IP is the priority.

BTW if I can't post in time for TT I will post in the miniatures showcase, just for fun.

Good man .... of course you can always just do a couple of smaller ones??? ..

[Moavoamoatu]

Good man .... of course you can always just do a couple of smaller ones??? ..

No as the TT entries I wish to paint can't be done with less miniatures....you will see why when I'll post them (for TT or not).

[Brushmistress]

@ Moa - you're insane!!! I've only got 3 WIPs on the table this week, and I'll still wondering if I'll be able to do TT.

[Darklord]

come on moa, if i can do iron painter, wamp, GW nationals, comissions and a challenge entry as well as TT (1 done already) then you can do this, you want me to send you some iron tablets??!!

[Moavoamoatu]

@ Moa - you're insane!!! I've only got 3 WIPs on the table this week, and I'll still wondering if I'll be able to do TT.

Insane ?? why because of the 26 miniatures ? So yes I am insane ;)

[Moavoamoatu]

come on moa, if i can do iron painter, wamp, GW nationals, comissions and a challenge entry as well as TT (1 done already) then you can do this, you want me to send you some iron tablets??!!

A huge bag of Iron Tablets please...

[Darklord]

i had 6 inch nails for breakfast followed by iron bru (as its made from girders!), in a few days it will probably be pro plus, nicotene and caffiene!!

[Moavoamoatu]

i had 6 inch nails for breakfast followed by iron bru (as its made from girders!), in a few days it will probably be pro plus, nicotene and caffiene!!

Didn't you try wrecked car engine parts ???

[Darklord]

nah, there steel not iron mostly!!

[Moavoamoatu]

It's so quiet...are you all dead ????

What's up guys (and ladies of course) ?

BTW I should have finished my entry this week-end so I could take some time for my TT entry.

[Brushmistress]

Hey Moa - I know I'm quite because of TT, and I can't smack talk you guys much - you kicked my arse last round.;)

[Darklord]

slow going for me, got the basic scratchbuilding , converting and sculpting done , but need to smooth things over and touch up before paint (which i was better with green stuff!!) base is done and half painted, probably down to the wire for me

[Bexley]

Busy scratchbuilding. Should start painting by Sunday afternoon.

[Moavoamoatu]

It's the first time I don't scartchbuild in IP....not even a single conversion....but 10 miniatures to paint...ooops

[waghorn41]

Well the weather's been useless for getting my 'I think..' entry primed and now I've just spent the evening down the hospital with my daughter - broken wrist scheduled for fixing Wednesday. Hold the front page, just had a call saying the consultant doesn't like the X-ray and wants to operate tommorrow. Oh well it's an almost certain dnf for me, probably won't get time for TT either now. :disappoin

[Moavoamoatu]

The most important is not having an IP or TT entry but that your daughter feels better. I really hope all will be fine for her.

You know I planned to get an entry in each TT contest category but I don't even know if I could even post one. That's not important. Health and family are far more important.

Good luck for your daughter.

And BTW you still have Rotten harvest and Femme fatale.

[demonherald]

I'm quiet because I have one hell of a schedule at the moment and just waiting to see what you guys come up with.....

best of luck to your daughter Waghorn....

[Moavoamoatu]

I just finished my 11th miniature for the final diorama....need to paint the base now and begin my TT entry.

[Wren]

waghorn - I'm really sorry to hear about your daughter and I hope they're able to make the repair as painlessly and successfully as possible.

I've just spent a few weeks waiting for weather decent enough to prime some minis for Gen Con Paint n Take and finally had a window of let's call it good enough weather Saturday morning. Normally I use brush primer and sealer cause I got fed up of waiting for perfect weather or gassing myself in the garage, so you might want to look into that to have for backup? Though along with the GC minis I had one thing to spray prime for myself. It had a kind of plastic on it that just repelled the brush primer. But that's the first time I've had that happen, and it was not a usual metal or resin part.

[Darklord]

hope she's doing ok waghorn, send our best to her.
as for my entry i have only spent maybe an hour on it in the last 5 days what with visitors, babies and hard landscapiing. just adding my usual smack talk to the base but still got tons to do and will be pushing to finish

[Moavoamoatu]

I am almost done !!!! Just glue the miniatures on the base, take photos and I'll post it ASAP.

I was also "bugged" these last days and Ritual will be happy : we drove with my wife's Volvo to IKEA to buy furnitures for my daughter :D I spent 2 hours building this fucking furniture instead of my IP diorama...and my wife find it funny to invite friends at home too....a real nightmare for my TT entry. I wanted to post in each category but it might be in one only if my wife doesn't want to go shopping for sales or invites friends or ask me to do some household or garden duties....I cross my fingers...that's life ;)

[Morf]

Marriage is only a temporary condition for some and may be cureable Eric ;)

[Bexley]

I spent 2 hours building this fucking furniture instead of my IP diorama...

Hey, we can swear here? I didn't know that.

(To clarify- not that I plan on doing so, or am in any way chastizing Moa for doing so. I'm just surprised that the forum software isn't set to filter it, and pleasantly surprised that FF trusts us to behave.)

[Brushmistress]

Moa- calm down man! I hate to say "It's only a painting competition", but it is. :) If I let myself get that worked up over every entry I did or wanted to do, I'd have lost my mind years ago (though it could be argued that I didn't have much of one to begin with!). No worries friend over what you can post - you're still a great addition to the forum!:D

[Moavoamoatu]

Moa- calm down man! I hate to say "It's only a painting competition", but it is. :) If I let myself get that worked up over every entry I did or wanted to do, I'd have lost my mind years ago (though it could be argued that I didn't have much of one to begin with!). No worries friend over what you can post - you're still a great addition to the forum!:D

Don't worry Jess, I am fine but I hate losing time with stupid things. I don't lose control, everything is ok and it's holidays soon.

@Bexley : even if Vikey or Nathan set a filter on the forum I could still swear in french :D

[Bexley]

Marriage is only a temporary condition for some and may be cureable Eric ;)

I'll drink to that.

So will you, ten minutes later after your elaborate girly drink is finally finished and served to you. :laugh:

[Moavoamoatu]

Marriage is only a temporary condition for some and may be cureable Eric ;)


I am used to divorce others, not me ;)

Bexley and Darklord : I see you online guys. Go back to your brushes or I'll post before you ;)

[Bexley]

@Bexley : even if Vikey or Nathan set a filter on the forum I could still swear in french :D

Ooh, good point.

[Moavoamoatu]

BTW I am glad to see that this thread is still "alive". It's nice to chat with mates here.

[Darklord]

aww thanks moa (i hope you meant me in there!!) i think everyone is saving there energy for the big 'reveal'!!

[waghorn41]

Thanks for all the good wishes for my daughter, I just got back from the hospital. Going to bed now after a 40hr stint without sleep. As for my entries I think I'll just be too busy now with SciFi writers meeting/convention fionance meeting tommorrow after work and then running a wargaming club for youngsters on Friday. So much to do so little time. :sleepy:
Yep and Thursday and Saturday are booked up too...

[Moavoamoatu]

Just to keep the pressure...my entry is done and I just have to take photos. I should post it tomorrow as I don't want to mess with an internet connection, or whatever.... Who knows, I might be crushed by a crazy elephant before the end of the week, be struck by a lightning or fall in my tube... ;)

[Moavoamoatu]

I just uploaded my entry. The photos aren't as good as I wanted but it's ok.

[Moavoamoatu]

Thanks for your comments Darklord and good luck too.

As Morf said at least I might win in the "number of miniatures" per diorama category ;)

[Darklord]

yep, thats a lot of minis, only one in mine but its a hard slog, and i now hate greenstuff!! time seems to be slipping away, supposed to have all day today but only got an hour and got turf coming tomorrow so thats cut that short now then car to garage on friday!!
but heck it will be worth it when i win!!
btw if i lose do i have to send out 2 minis?

[Bexley]

I would say only if you came in third. You should only have to send a mini to the person(s) with scores higher than yours.

[Darklord]

sounds fine to me bexley

[Moavoamoatu]

heck it will be worth it when i win!!


We say something in french : "don't sell the skin of the bear before you kill him" :D

[Darklord]

heck i aint selling no bear skins, ive been spending the last two weeks saying, im in the final!! think the wife is sick of it now

[Moavoamoatu]

heck i aint selling no bear skins, ive been spending the last two weeks saying, im in the final!! think the wife is sick of it now

Mine is not sick but fed up ;)

[Commander Y]

Pointless, to be sure - except that I finished al rounds! I've uploaded my "I think I can" offering HERE (http://wyrd-games.net/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=2321&cat=553). Once again, a Troll. and the obvious choice from the range given the final theme.

[Darklord]

nice job commander

[Moavoamoatu]

You are so silent guys....are you DNFing since you saw my entry ???? :D Only 2 days left...

[Darklord]

now we've seen it we decided we could take a couple of days off and still win!!!
well im about halfway done now, hate painting red though

[Moavoamoatu]

now we've seen it we decided we could take a couple of days off and still win!!!
well im about halfway done now, hate painting red though

Choose a colour you like.

I am impatient to see what you will post both of you.

I thought I would have finsihed painting and take some rest after IP and TT but my wife asked me to paint the kitchen. The brush is larger but it's still paint.

[Darklord]

too late, already done about 20 layers on it!! i should be finished sunday

[Moavoamoatu]

too late, already done about 20 layers on it!! i should be finished sunday

Just one thick layer of black over it :D

Did it happen to you : you have just finished your miniature, painting the last detail and...it fells in the paint pot.....Grrrrr...I did it once.

[Darklord]

actually not far wrong, got the mini almost finished and the pot had leaked and had paint on my hand, luckily it only got on the tail bit (now theres a sneaky clue to my entry- but you wont guess the rest!!)

[Moavoamoatu]

A rat !!!!!

[Darklord]

its like that song "thers a rat in me kitchen what am i gonna do? i'm gonna eat that rat thats what i'm gonna do"!!
(no its not a rat!!) something faster

[Moavoamoatu]

something faster

Red + Fast = it's a Ferrari then ;)

[Darklord]

nearly!!

[Moavoamoatu]

nearly!!

A firetruck ??

An evil snotling ??

An indian Goblin ??

Demonherald ?? :D

[Darklord]

nope all wrong and you've run out of guesses, have to wait till sunday now

[Moavoamoatu]

Come on guys, I am about to post my TT entry and you didn't even post your IP entry....if you don't post before sunday and if you win we could say that a female won the contest once again :D

Is that smack talk Jim ??

[Darklord]

Come on guys, I am about to post my TT entry and you didn't even post your IP entry....if you don't post before sunday and if you win we could say that a female won the contest once again :D

Is that smack talk Jim ??

its smack Jim but not as we no it!

well moa i posted my TT entry days ago!! i will be finished tomorrow, 3/4 done now. still a bit more smack to go on it too, already got 5 of you lot on there and hopefully another 7 or 8 to go (say now if you want imortalising!!)

[Moavoamoatu]

3/4 done....hope your internet connection or your camera won't break tomorrow :D

BTW Bexley is not on the forum anymore. is it the Ben$quig syndrome ?

[Bexley]

No, I just have no time for smack talk. I injured my arm, and it's slowing down my painting. I had hoped to be done by tonight, but it looks like I'll be pushing up against the deadline once again.

[Moavoamoatu]

No, I just have no time for smack talk. I injured my arm, and it's slowing down my painting. I had hoped to be done by tonight, but it looks like I'll be pushing up against the deadline once again.

I hope it's not too serious. I am impatient to see your entry. Good luck.

[Bexley]

Not really sure- I don't have medical insurance. I needed to make dozens and dozens of small weights to glue foam to tables at work. I got the bright idea of putting concrete into plastic cups- concrete is cheap, and weighs enough for what I was doing. But I had no mixer, so I had to hand mix it small batches. If you've ever hand mixed concrete, it's no easy task- imagine trying to stir about 16 oz. of water into a gallon of sand and pebbles. My arm was sore afterward, but that seemed normal, given how much work I had done. But this was a few weeks ago, and it is still sore. My guess is that I just strained a muscle, but because of the kinds of things I do at work, like painting and stirring and sanding and nailing, it's not getting a chance to rest and heal. It's gotten really bad ove rthe last few days, though. I actually couldn't paint yesterday because I couldn't bend my arm. I can bend it today, but it's very stiff and painful. I'd take some painkillers that I have leftover from some dental work, but they make me a bit loopy, and I don't want to wake up tomorrow and find red orcs with tie-dyed shirts standing in purple grass.

[Bexley]

My biggest concern now is this storm knocking out my power, forcing me to paint in pain and by candle light.

[Moavoamoatu]

I had exactly the same on my arm once : it's like a "tennis elbow" (I don't know the english medical term) and apart eating painkillers and having rest you can't do anything. It lasted about 3 or 4 weeks. I know it's painful and you can't do anything. Even using a keyboard becomes a nightmare.

[demonherald]

ligaments dear boy ligaments... starts of slightly irritating, becomes slightly annoying , get's down right painful and can be potentially crippling.....

real pain in the butt and as you say your usual routine won't help it mend .. small repetitive movements.. a lesson to all us busy painters and modelers. a small set of weights can do wonders .. just break every so often and do a few curls... or at the very least stretch regularly.... fingers crossed for you that it wo't impact your work too much....

[Moavoamoatu]

ligaments dear boy ligaments... starts of slightly irritating, becomes slightly annoying , get's down right painful and can be potentially crippling.....

That's the term I was looking for...and it's terribly annoying. I also hope you will be fine to post Bexley.

[Darklord]

sorry to hear that bexley, if you've had it this long though your entry should still be great as your previous ones have been

[Ritual]

Bexley, it sounds like you could have a muscle inflammation. You get that from putting a lengthy and unnatural strain on some muscle in your body. It is very painful, but it won't have lasting effects. It can be treated with anti-inflammatory medications.

[Bexley]

sorry to hear that bexley, if you've had it this long though your entry should still be great as your previous ones have been

Well, it's only been a bit sore until the last week or so. I'm getting along, though. I won't be sleeping tonight, but barring hardware/power/internet failure, I'll be posting an entry.

[Bexley]

Bexley, it sounds like you could have a muscle inflammation. You get that from putting a lengthy and unnatural strain on some muscle in your body. It is very painful, but it won't have lasting effects. It can be treated with anti-inflammatory medications.

Yeah, I don't think it's super serious. I just won't really get to rest and heal until after I get back from GenCon.

[Brushmistress]

Sorry for not being up here lately, and I sad to hear about your arm Bexley. I can sympathize a little. I managed to get one TT entry up, but not before I caught my thumb on my painting hand in a drawer. Now I'm stuck with a slightly crooked and bruised appendage with a constant ache.

[Moavoamoatu]

That's what painters like us fear the most : hurting fingers.

[Darklord]

i can symapthise there BM, cut my finger yesterday doing this entry, right on the end too so plaster wouldnt stick which is awkward when you dont want blood on the mini!!

[Moavoamoatu]

i can symapthise there BM, cut my finger yesterday doing this entry, right on the end too so plaster wouldnt stick which is awkward when you dont want blood on the mini!!

That's why I posted my entry as soon as I could to avoid problems such as internet connection, injuries,....the most dangerous is when you use a knife to cut foam or polystyrene to make a diorama.

Now I know why your entry is painted in red Darklord ;)

[Darklord]

been some sweat too, and the way its going im going to be shedding tears soon so a full house then!!

[Moavoamoatu]

Bexley is injured, you are injured too...don't you try to influence the judges by whining ???? If yes, I'll do the same.

In fact I am an orphan. My too legs were broken when a piano fell on me from the 5th floor. Last week, a pitbull ate my left arm and 3 days ago I burnt my right hand fingers in a toaster. Please consider that I had to finish my entry in difficult conditions. I painted the last miniatures with my mouth but it was not easy as I broke 3 of my teeth when I fell from my armchair. And taking the picture was horrible : I had to press my camera button with my left ear. So, please, judges, be nice with me... :D

Just kidding guys ;) and still looking forward to see your entries.

[Darklord]

the only thing that would sway the judges are copiuos amounts of money or several vestial vrigins

[Moavoamoatu]

the only thing that would sway the judges are copiuos amounts of money or several vestial vrigins

In this case I'd like to be a judge next time ;)

[Darklord]

well just about finished, one more namedrop to do then pics

[Darklord]

mines up, you will laugh (wether its at the humour or the paintjob i dont know!!)

[Moavoamoatu]

Both ;) I just left a comment.

I really like your style.

You could find a suitable scooter without sculpting it. I think Schuco and New Ray make some.

Great job.

[Darklord]

cheers moa, everything i have ever used for IP is stuff i already had, too tight to buy stuff specially!!

[Moavoamoatu]

But will you buy "Times" newspaper in a few days ? ;)

[Darklord]

if im on the front cover

[Moavoamoatu]

Judges will have to work now.

When should we get the results Jim ?

[supervike]

The quicker the judges get their scores in, the quicker I'll post the results!


Congrats to you finalists...a great batch of entries there!

[Bexley]

Ugh. I made sure to leave time to take pictures, but I didn't have a backdrop big enough. So I had to run out and buy some posterboard, thus eating up my photography time. Of course, lighting a large piece is different than a small one (which is what I'm used to) and so once again, I'm not happy with my photos. I also didn't include many close-ups in my collage, which was a goof on my part. I think that tomorrow I will mess around and take better pictures for myself, and maybe post them here too.

[Djudja]

I'm not englishspeaking.
Could you, please, explain me the full and deep sense of "The Beast of Burden" phrase?
I don't uderstand why all entries are carrying smth.

[goblyn13]

I'm not englishspeaking.
Could you, please, explain me the full and deep sense of "The Beast of Burden" phrase?
I don't uderstand why all entries are carrying smth.

for IronPainter, each round has a theme, (kind of like Iron Chef which its basd on) that theme, is what the overall composition is to be based on.

So for this last round it was "beast of burden" how the theme is interpreted is completely up to the painter.

[Darklord]

Ugh. I made sure to leave time to take pictures, but I didn't have a backdrop big enough. So I had to run out and buy some posterboard, thus eating up my photography time. Of course, lighting a large piece is different than a small one (which is what I'm used to) and so once again, I'm not happy with my photos. I also didn't include many close-ups in my collage, which was a goof on my part. I think that tomorrow I will mess around and take better pictures for myself, and maybe post them here too.

my backdrop sucks too but at 10pm it was a bit late for me to go buy one!! had a real hard time trying to photograph all my writing but then my camera is only 3 megapixel!!
great entry by the way bexley as is moa's

[Ritual]

I'm not englishspeaking.
Could you, please, explain me the full and deep sense of "The Beast of Burden" phrase?
I don't uderstand why all entries are carrying smth.

"Beast of Burden" is a figure of speech. If you interpret it litterally you'll have a beast of some sort carrying something heavy (in this sense, burden = heavy weight). Of course, you can interpret the saying in more metaphorical ways where "burden" could relate to something different, like a difficult decision, feelings of guilt or something similar. But, it seems the contestants this round chose the more litteral interpretation.

[Bexley]

my backdrop sucks too but at 10pm it was a bit late for me to go buy one!! had a real hard time trying to photograph all my writing but then my camera is only 3 megapixel!!
great entry by the way bexley as is moa's

I know your pain. I'm bringing mine to work tomorrow (er... I suppose that "later today" is more correct, as I went to bed shortly after my entry was posted, woke up at about 11pm, and can't get back to sleep) to take some better pictures.

I think that while I await Rotten Harvest (I didn't expect to get this far in IP, and it ate up too much time for me to get an entry for GenCon) I am going to build a permanent photo booth and work out all the kinks for taking both single-figure pictures and larger dioramas, so when I'm up against a deadline I can just set up and take pictures and not have to worry about it. Plus, with a permanent setup, I can take WIP pics with less hassle.

[Darklord]

yeah i need to set up some sort of light tent, dont even have a daylight bulb at the moment, let alone more than one lamp, but the better my photos get the more it will show up my shortcomings!!!

so are you and moa getting nervous now? after all, i am the underdog so have nothing to lose!!

[Moavoamoatu]

yeah i need to set up some sort of light tent, dont even have a daylight bulb at the moment, let alone more than one lamp, but the better my photos get the more it will show up my shortcomings!!!

so are you and moa getting nervous now? after all, i am the underdog so have nothing to lose!!

I did some smack talk these last days as I wanted to have fun and I was impatient to see other entries but now it's time for sincerity.

I have nothing to lose either as I didn't expect to go to the final when I began the IP contest. I browsed the past IP galleries and I thought it would be a real challenge to go further than round 2 or 3.

Now, I think we are all 3 of the same painting skill level, and we managed to beat better painters. I watched carefully at the entries and I think none is better than the other. We all do the same mistakes and we can't reach Demonherald, Ritual or EricJ painting level, who would smash us in a contest.

I won't comment about my entry as it is judges job or even yours mates.

Bexley, your entry is serious (not humoristic compared to Darklord entry) and the diorama is awesome. I really like the colours you chose too. May be could you tell us how you did it and how you manage to get such a realistic grass.

To be honest, when I saw your entry poping up 5 minutes before the deadline I said to myself : he is the winner. But considering all entries are different it's hard to say. Judges job once again.

Darklord, your entry is hilarious and I really love it too. You did an excellent job on it and I love your british sense of humour.

At least all of us respected the litteral theme.

Now we all 3 have problems taking pictures and we complain about it.

I bought a new camera (the last Canon one), 8 megapixels and a macro zoom up to 1 cm. It's an excellent camera but I am a poor photograph. I made a light tent to improve the shots but my last dioramas (entries) were too large to get in it.
Darklord, I have daylight bulbs but I find it better to use a halogen or normal bulb for photos, or if possible take photos in my garden, outside, by daylight.

My background sheet of paper was too small too so I used a white sheet which doesn't help without a light tent.

I still don't manage to use my camera properly and as Ritual (not sure) said for some miniatures, the pictures don't reveal the work of the painter as most of the tones don't appear on photos.

Well, just wait and see now but even if I don't win the first place I won something far better : new friends.

[Ritual]

I have done my voting! So, any delays are none of my fault! :approve:

Great entries, guys! Worthy of a final round!

[Darklord]

well to be honest Moa i think my painting standard is below that of you two and some others in the contest, but it just shows how far you can get utilising the theme aspect and a little luck! this is my second IP and i would have been happy to get further than last time into round 3, i never imagined for a million years i would get to the final!! This is probably one of the toughest competitions out there, yes there are GD's and stuff but the standard here is high especially when its done in two weeks, you have to go with a set theme (which are never easy ones!!) then do it all again.
I'm glad just to be in with such a great bunch of painters and getting feedback from even more great painters (judges included)
I thank you all

[Hinton]

Great entries, all. Good luck!

[supervike]

well to be honest Moa i think my painting standard is below that of you two and some others in the contest, but it just shows how far you can get utilising the theme aspect and a little luck! this is my second IP and i would have been happy to get further than last time into round 3, i never imagined for a million years i would get to the final!! This is probably one of the toughest competitions out there, yes there are GD's and stuff but the standard here is high especially when its done in two weeks, you have to go with a set theme (which are never easy ones!!) then do it all again.
I'm glad just to be in with such a great bunch of painters and getting feedback from even more great painters (judges included)
I thank you all



First off, don't sell yourself short in the painting arena, you are no slouch!

Second of all....that is what I love about how the Iron Painter has shaken out. It still is a painting contest, but creativity, and attention to theme can really make a huge difference. All three of you have excelled at creativity and theme, and it's why you are all here fighting for the glory!

[Bexley]

Bexley, your entry is serious (not humoristic compared to Darklord entry) and the diorama is awesome. I really like the colours you chose too. May be could you tell us how you did it and how you manage to get such a realistic grass.

You'll have to wait for the book.

Kidding! The ground is painted in mid-to-dark browns. The stones are imbedded in the ground, and dead branches are glued here and there. Then I gave the ground a coat thinned of matte medium (it makes a better glue, as it is less shiny than white glue and it's waterproof once it is dry) leaving small patches dry here and there. Over the wet medium, I put down a layer of forest scatter, which I make myself from "dyed" dried basil from the supermarket. Once that dries, I spray on another layer of matte medium to hold it all down. Then I apply spots of the matte medium to some of the bare spots, and add static grass. I use a 9-volt static grass applicator for that, which makes the grass stand on end. (Don't buy the one from Noch- it isn't very good, and costs $150 USD. Google around, a few model railroading sites have plans showing you how to build one for about $30 in parts, and it will work much better.) I first use 6mm grasses. Then go back to the patches you didn't cove rthe first time, and use 2-3mm grasses. After that is all dry, mist the whole piece with some water, and then spray on a final layer of matte medium to make sure everything is glued down. Once that is dried, birch catkins are glued down individually here and there. Most forest litter is partially decayed (or at least, curled up and shrivelled into unrecognizeable shapes) which the basil represents, and the catkins give the appearance of more freshly-fallen leaves.

[Bexley]

I don't like light tents. The corners always seem to be in the way, and if I need to get the lights closer I am out of luck. I use paper diffusers over the lamps themselves, so I can position them any way I want and still get a diffuse light. The only real trick there is putting some opaque tape over the very center of the diffuser, which eliminates the "bright spot' from the center of the bulb from casting too much light in one spot. Just be sure you have non-yellowing paper, as the light shining on them yellows papers quickly, turning your diffusers into yellow colored gels, and will give your photos a yellow cast.

[Moavoamoatu]

Thanks Bexley. I knew about tea leaves, not basil, it's a great idea.

I didn't know the 9 volt trick : that's why I never used static grass as it was always lying down.

[Moavoamoatu]

I don't like light tents. The corners always seem to be in the way, and if I need to get the lights closer I am out of luck. I use paper diffusers over the lamps themselves, so I can position them any way I want and still get a diffuse light. The only real trick there is putting some opaque tape over the very center of the diffuser, which eliminates the "bright spot' from the center of the bulb from casting too much light in one spot. Just be sure you have non-yellowing paper, as the light shining on them yellows papers quickly, turning your diffusers into yellow colored gels, and will give your photos a yellow cast.

How many watts are your bulbs ?

[Bexley]

Either 60 or 40; I don't remember. But I should have had 100 for this one, since I had to put the lights further back to light everything.

[demonherald]

I'm taking my time guys .. this is gonna be close 3 excellent entries very worthy of a final and 3 completely diferent outcomes.. this is gonna be a bitch of a job I love and hate the three of you at the same time....

[Darklord]

we love you too rob, well i do moa and bexley said they didnt like you and you smelt of fish and chips.
btw which part of leeds you from?

[Moavoamoatu]

we love you too rob, well i do moa and bexley said they didnt like you and you smelt of fish and chips.
btw which part of leeds you from?

No, I didn't...You Darlord smell fish and chips...and beer sometimes. :D

[Darklord]

yep i do!! and sometimes a pickled egg or a spam fritter

[Bexley]

I freely admit to reeking of whisky. I'm quite proud of it, actually.

[Darklord]

come on vikey i need the new theme, i cant function anymore without a theme!!

[Duende]

I'd like to remind you guys that I've put together a Manly Man Prize for the runner-up again this Iron Painter. The second-highest scorer in the final round gets to be The Manly Man, since he's not quite Iron, but Manly enough to have made it as far as he did. Some of you may remember our first Manly Man was vincegamer from IP III where he was beaten by the lovely Cindy (cdukino).

Good luck to you all!

[Darklord]

ooh a manly prize. is it a codpiece with supervikes avatar emblazoned on the front?

[supervike]

ooh a manly prize. is it a codpiece with supervikes avatar emblazoned on the front?

It's emblazoned on the INSIDE!

[Bexley]

You just can't see it under the stains.

[Moavoamoatu]

come on vikey i need the new theme, i cant function anymore without a theme!!

Do you want Vikey to sing one more song ?

[Darklord]

yes, 'we are the champions!' or maybe becks 'loser'!!

[waghorn41]

Great entries all, glad I'm not a judge - but I know my favourite.

[demonherald]

my scores are in.......I hate the three of you and my brain has melted............great work.....

[Darklord]

just eric to go now then?

[Ritual]

I know Eric's been busy with some other stuff lately, so, for once, I think I can cut him some slack (even though it goes against my instincts... :vb_devil: ).

[Darklord]

yeah, plus he's a lovely bloke, and probably a hit with the ladies too ( just greasing the wheels a little!!)

[Duzzdan]

All great entries this round. I don't envy the judges one bit, it's gonna be a hard one to judge.

[Darklord]

it would be interesting after this is decided to fond out what the judges would have come up with for some of the rounds, or are there brains placed in stasis until its time for judging

[demonherald]

not so much the brain put into stasis just stacked up with work.. as well as personal lives jobs and the like ..theres comp prep .. myself GD, Anders just been at world expo but mainly there is a hell of a lot going on behind the scenes here at the moment .. Eric in particular is in danger of melting .. but all will be revealed in the fullness of time I'm sure....


as for what I'd have done each round well As is usual for IP I have a million ideas each roud but can't really say which I would have committed to without starting some... I Tell ya what I'll have a think and may even do a few pieces when the schedule clears....

[Darklord]

yeah you do a great job fitting in the judging with what other things you guys have on!! i suppose its tricky as to what you would do if like a lot of us you have about 3 ideas for each round and only decide one as you have to get on with it!!

[Ritual]

it would be interesting after this is decided to fond out what the judges would have come up with for some of the rounds, or are there brains placed in stasis until its time for judging

I freely admit to being a really lousy iron painter! Yeah, I've never entered the competition, but I know anyway! I am too easily distracted by other ideas and, while being quite good under the pressure of a looming deadline, I wouldn't handle the repeated deadlines with hardly any pauses inbetween very well. Furthermore, I get obsessive about details and perfection when I paint, so I would drive myself crazy with not being able to call something done until I'd spent hours and hours touching stuff up. I expect I'd be able to paint a miniature in that timeframe, but I wouldn't have time left for the setting, not to mention additional miniatures.

I am simply not "iron"! Perhaps I'm more "silk" or "crystal", or something else that is fragile, pretty and expensive? :approve:

[Darklord]

faberge' egg painter?

[PaintMinion]

The new theme is..."May I have the envelope, please..."

[supervike]

I think I'd kick everyones' collective butt in Iron Painter, but alas, I have to run it....poor me, lucky you!


(still with the smack?)

[Moavoamoatu]

I think I'd kick everyones' collective butt in Iron Painter, but alas, I have to run it....poor me, lucky you!


(still with the smack?)

Gives us the final scores or go back to Wyrd basement :D

[Moavoamoatu]

What is EricJ doing ???? It took me only one hour to post comments and vote for all TT entries.....and the IP is over since 3 days and it's for 3 entries !!!!! Another room to paint ? ;)

If the results are not posted within 1 hour, let's say it's a draw : 3 winners.....hurrah !!!!!...I must be dreaming I think...:confused:

[Bexley]

I think he should dock painters .5 pts in theme for every time they complain. (Besides- it's not actually late until tomorrow around noonish...)

[demonherald]

What is EricJ doing ???? It took me only one hour to post comments and vote for all TT entries.....and the IP is over since 3 days and it's for 3 entries !!!!! Another room to paint ? ;)

If the results are not posted within 1 hour, let's say it's a draw : 3 winners.....hurrah !!!!!...I must be dreaming I think...:confused:


more work tha a single man is capable .... he is a demon a god and now gonna wear his undepants on the outside and don his cape..

last seen heading off to the mid pacific to rebung a volcanoe that keeps affecting his hearing..
His desk is positioned straddling the San Andreas Fault it is only the sheer strength in super J's thighs that keeps the fault from opening .

he also foud time this mornig to save Mrs Alice Titling's prize persian cat who had found himself stuck up a tree while chasing a small sparrow.. After returning the Cat to Mrs Titlng Super J then recussitated the sparrow and returned it to it's offspring who were eagerly awaitig the return of their missing parent. Super J managed to feed them by regurgitating a piece of subway sandwich he still had in his second stomach .. (the one designed to keep junkfood out of his immaculate system....

What a Guy.......

[Ritual]

Erm... Rob, have you been drinking again? :hmmmm:

[Bexley]

In his spare time, he cured cancer, talked Fidel Castro into capitalism, and discovered a working unified field theory. His tears heal the sick and when he breaks wind, everyone in a forty foot radius is treated to the scent of freshly cut roses and puppies.

[Ritual]

In his spare time, he cured cancer, talked Fidel Castro into capitalism, and discovered a working unified field theory. His tears heal the sick and when he breaks wind, everyone in a forty foot radius is treated to the scent of freshly cut roses and puppies.

No, you are confusing Eric with me.

[Bexley]

No, you brokered a lasting peace accord between Israel and Hamas, created an HIV vaccine out of spent nuclear fuel, and personally stopped four hurricanes from devastating the southeast United States just by asking them to, and I quote, "Knock it off already."

[Ritual]

Yeah, you're right. I tend to confuse all the miracles I perform with those that others do. :D

[Duende]

Eric is actually Chuck Norris in disguise.

[Bexley]

No, Chuck Norris is a fictional composite character based on EricJ, Ritual, Mother Theresa, Mr. T, and J. Edgar Hoover.

[Duzzdan]

and when he breaks wind, everyone in a forty foot radius is treated to the scent of freshly cut roses and puppies.

What exactly do freshly cut puppies smell like?

[goblyn13]

What exactly do freshly cut puppies smell like?

Wet Dog, kinda over powers the roses

[Bexley]

What exactly do freshly cut puppies smell like?

Like HEAVEN.

[Moavoamoatu]

Rob I laughed a lot reading your EricJ background. Very funny guys.

More serious question : can a judge DNF for his score ????? ;)

[Darklord]

depends if he would have given me more points than you and bexley!! robs post made me laugh too, which is good as i aint well today.
as for erics score i think they arent due until today anyway, its just really hard for us to wait for them!!!

[Moavoamoatu]

its just really hard for us to wait for them!!!

Not for me, I am just curious. BTW if I lose I already bought a rope..... :D

[Darklord]

well you'll be pleased to know moa, my own judging puts you ahead, although, five minutes ago it was bex and 10 minutes ago it was you!!!

[Moavoamoatu]

well you'll be pleased to know moa, my own judging puts you ahead, although, five minutes ago it was bex and 10 minutes ago it was you!!!

Wait and see, as I wrote before we all 3 have a similar painting level (if you look close at details) and all 3 entries are totally different.

BTW if you compare our entries to some TT entries, we are not the best painters over the place. It was really hard for me to vote for the best entry in TT and in some categories there are more than 3 winners.

[Darklord]

yeah those tt entries are tough to choose, waiting till IP finished before i start on those. There have been some big names missing from IP this time and a few suprises, but that's halve the fun!!!

[Wren]

If the new standard in IP entries is 4+ figures and laugh out loud hilarity on every entry, I'm not sure this name will be seen in the lists of entrants again! :->

[Darklord]

well that would give us fella's more of a chance!!!!!!!

[ThunderhawkerMinis]

SPeak for yourself...

[Darklord]

my wife does that for me

we got eric's score in yet mr vike sir?

[supervike]

No score yet....sorry guys!

Although it does give me a special thrill, making you wait with such antici.....pation.

http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/cinema/2636/fnfclsup.jpg

[ThunderhawkerMinis]

oi... I am now scarred.

[Darklord]

reminds me of miss jones from rising damp

[Frustrated Father]

Since we're scaring the bejeesus out of people ...

http://bp3.blogger.com/_aQV3n67BRUY/R68NduHw-TI/AAAAAAAAAUA/dT7tUK_UPrQ/s1600/cigar.jpg

[Duende]

Ahhh! I box with a red X in it!! Run for the hills!

:p:

[Darklord]

yes i see it too, its a portent of doom, who know what hides behind it? maybe eric because we cant find him anywhere else!!

[ThunderhawkerMinis]

Scarred... not scared.

[Ritual]

If the new standard in IP entries is 4+ figures and laugh out loud hilarity on every entry, I'm not sure this name will be seen in the lists of entrants again! :->

It's about giving me and the other judges what we like to see! There's more than one way to do that in. If I remember correctly, you did it rather well. :)

[Darklord]

It's about giving me and the other judges what we like to see! :)
scantily clad women lying on beds of money?

[EricJ]

my scores are in :D

you can put the pitchforks away now!

[Darklord]

my scores are in :D

you can put the pitchforks away now!

maybe keep them out until we see your scoring!!!

[demonherald]

It's about giving me and the other judges what we like to see! There's more than one way to do that in. If I remember correctly, you did it rather well. :)
I second that..............................

[demonherald]

scantily clad women lying on beds of money?
and that.............:tongue2:

[Moavoamoatu]

maybe keep them out until we see your scoring!!!

Second that.........

[supervike]

Final scores are up! See other thread!

[Wren]

It's about giving me and the other judges what we like to see! There's more than one way to do that in. If I remember correctly, you did it rather well. :)

Well, I did learn that FF will vote for nipples, but you and Eric haven't been quite as blatant in your preferences. ;->