IP 4 RD 2 WINNERS announcement!

[supervike]

Woof!

What an amazing round!! Fantastic entries...really top stuff.

Right to it, here are the names and the scores, winners are in RED.


Demonherald 54 vs. Stubbdog 49.5
Flit DNF vs. R2J1 29.5
Thryth 49 vs. EldinTux 42
Youngwolf7 48 vs. alizardincrimson 39
skrivanek 41.5 vs. Jack 34
Bexley 41.5 vs. LavronYor 38
Kenan dnf vs. Slidedog 47.5
Wren 54 vs. Jed 49.5
Dragonforge 54.5 vs. Uberdark 42.5
Jubilee 41.5 vs Skya 57.5
Duende 44 vs Brushmistress 53.5
Morf 48.5 vs. LordFishBane 41
Beelzebrush 55.5 vs Darklord 46

I will post the judges comments and actual scoring a bit later, as well as have some 'scoring highlights'.

Losers, please arrange to send your victor their 'fee' (a mini or 5 dollars American).

ALSO...please note that this leaves 13 contestants, so I will need to invoke the "Hey Gimme another Chance" ruling. (more on that in a bit)

[LavronYor]

Wow, I guess it was spelled Bexley....

Congrats Bexley!

[supervike]

NOTE: This is cut and pasted from the 'IP rules'




4. It is possible to have an odd number of entrants left after any given round. SO, that being the case, the judges will designate a "HEY GIVE ME ANOTHER CHANCE" award. This award will be for a very close runner-up, and will be allowed to advance to the next round. ADDENDEUM TO MAKE IT CLEARER (10-18-2007)The GIVE ME ANOTHER CHANCE award is to be given to the HIGHEST scoring non winner. In the event of a tie, highest scoring Theme prevails. If still cannot be decided, coin flip.

[Darklord]

wow, some big score's in there. well done all, especially beelzebrush. at least i lost to the second highest score!! what will i do with my time now!!

[Ritual]

Guess Stubbdog advances then... or Jed, depending on who scored highest on theme.

[skrivanek]

Congrats to all - winners and losers alike. This was not an easy round from both the quality and ingredient aspects. There were a ton of really great entries this go.



Aaron

[Ritual]

It is strange that the lowest scoring entrant still advances! :) One of the things that make IP so exciting! You never know!

[Darklord]

yeah not fair!!!!!!!!! maybe next ip should have all scores together and the top 50% advance?

[Ritual]

But then it wouldn't be the same contest anymore! It's a one-on-one tournament! The other face-offs don't matter...

[Darklord]

i dont mind what format it is, i will still be the iron painter champ (just not his time!!)

[Ritual]

That's the spirit! :)

[r2-j1]

Wooooo!
Lowest score by far! And I still move on past all the losers.:ciao:

Seriously though, my score was completely deserved. It might be the worst finished mini I have painted in years, and is likely headed the the stripper jar. My heart just wasn't in it and I really did half ass it. But by sheer twist of fate I find myself in the next round. I shall endeavor to rally from my miserable showing and give my next opponent proper battle. Because I'd like to think I'm a little better then my last entry shows.

[YoungWolf7]

What a ride. This has been fun. Which is the entire point anyway, right?

[Ritual]

Why use past tense YW7? You should use present tense as the competition definitely goes on for you!

[EricJ]

congrats to all the winners! And it was really a great showing all around. I have no doubt that R2-J1 will redeem himself, and of course the mystery of who the 14th contestant next round still hangs in the balance...until the scores are shown! :)

[Darklord]

even though i'm not in the next round i can't wait to see what happens, after the great entries this round next ones going to be even tougher!

[Beelzebrush]

Bad luck DL... you submitted a great entry! Look forward to seeing you next time :D

Anyway, glad to have been the winner and can't wait for my next victim...erm.. I mean opponent :vb_devil:

[Duende]

Congrats to BM! Just PM me to let me know where to send your ill-gotten gains. ;)

I guess we should've had that jello-wrestling match, I could have taken you in that! :p:

Maybe I'll contribute next round by entering a mini in the "I think I can" gallery.

[r2-j1]

Indeed there were some hard luck loses this round. These were 3-4 entries including Darklords, that just made me think. "Wow I can't believe an entry this good didn't advance". But those are the breaks in the Iron Painter I guess.

[Hinton]

Maybe I'll contribute next round by entering a mini in the "I think I can" gallery.

And that's something that all of those that don't advance should keep in mind. I entered a mini in the "I think I can" section for this round because it's still fun to try and get something done within the theme and in the time frame.

I'm probably just as excited as the winners are to see what the next theme is.

[Darklord]

yeah well done mate, now we want to see what the judges had to say! thanks r2-j1

[Frustrated Father]

Speaking of the 'I think I can' section, a bit thanks to all of you continuing along in great spirit with the IP. I haven't taken the time to comment on most of the entries due to time constraints (hell I've got 9 windows open in the computer now jumping back and forth) but its rather neat seeing ya'll continue on like this.

Now the rest of you losers do the same.

:D

[Lordfishbane]

Grats Morph!! I know ya had me after seeing your entry, I will introduce you to a family tradition by regifting the fig Coil sent me !!!

I challenge all losers to show these "Iron Painters" our metal by finishing all rounds in the the I think I can catagory.

[EricJ]

ooh, I forgot about the I think I can's, I'll definitely comment and give scores to those as well, just for fun!

[Morf]

Thanks Lordfishbane, great to have you as an opponent!

[Darklord]

yes i was looking forward to some extra free time now but i think i may give the i think i can a go. after all i entered this for feedback mainly so why not get more

[YoungWolf7]

Why use past tense YW7? You should use present tense as the competition definitely goes on for you!

Oh it does. Even once I'm dumped out unceremoniously on my arse I'll still be in the "I think I can" category.

Guess I should "this has been fun so far..." ;)

[Dragonforge]

Woo Hoo! Went from 4th highest score last time to 3rd highest..Im working my way up the ladder.. by the end I WILL be Number#1

Were supposed to get a prize from the looser?? hey that Hash guy owes me then I guess......

[EricJ]

haha, yeah, you'll be #1 UNLESS next round you run into the top scorer while only coming in #2... and so the IP goes...

Man, these threads are the quickest growing around...

[Dragonforge]

Oh now Eric..have faith brother..I can crush them all :)

yeah its fast thread..3 pages in no time..

[YoungWolf7]

That reminds me, I still haven't gotten my booty from round 1 either...

[Bexley]

Me either.

[Bexley]

What's worse? DNFing, or failing to pony up for a loss?

[Darklord]

doing both at once

[Lordfishbane]

Welching is worse IMO, then it doubles if you DNF AND welch.

[Duende]

DNFing. That disappoints everybody watching while not ponying up disappoints only one. (well maybe two since vike tries to make up for them) But really, I have enough unpainted lead that one more or less doen't matter much. and $5 isn't going to make or break me.

just say "No!" to DNF!!!

[Dragonforge]

just say "No!" to DNF!!!

DNF= Duende Not Finishing???

LOL

[r2-j1]

Personally I've never understood the need for prizes in this contest anyway. IP is about bragging rights not prizes. Plus I figure we all have more minis then we need already, and 5 bucks doesn't really seem worth the trouble to me. I tell anybody I beat to not bother unless they have a mini that just really want to share.

[EricJ]

Personally I've never understood the need for prizes in this contest anyway. IP is about bragging rights not prizes. Plus I figure we all have more minis then we need already, and 5 bucks doesn't really seem worth the trouble to me. I tell anybody I beat to not bother unless they have a mini that just really want to share.

I actually agree. When it started and was small, there was that joy of winning a little bet essentually, but now it's gotten to a level where there is such a prestige involved in winning against stuch competition and in such a short time span, that it's about bragging rights. I'd say more if we wanted to put a prize on it, have it be an entry fee, but even that's not really needed. Heck, maybe the entry fee could be something through the wyrd store even... like buying a wyrd mini? promote the line...ok now I'm just throwing random stuff out there. :)

[Ritual]

The bribes are enough for me... :D

[Brushmistress]

DNF= Duende Not Finishing???

LOL

Hey, she finished (and with a very interesting choice of model at that)! Congrats to all this rounds winners, and to those who posted in the "I think I can" gallery! :party:This was some seriously stiff competition.

[Dragonforge]

Hey, she finished (and with a very interesting choice of model at that)! Congrats to all this rounds winners, and to those who posted in the "I think I can" gallery! :party:This was some seriously stiff competition.

yeah I know, she just said say no to DNF..

I was just trying to be clever..failed miserably..

But yeah the level was over the top..congrats to all.. bigger congrats to all who advance..

[Lordfishbane]

I to have a gigundus pile of painted lead, and 5$ aint gonna pay my house note. I think however it shows a cetian amount of metal to pony up, or not.

[EricJ]

ooooh, I just realized timing is going to be interesting next time, as it looks like it'd fall on thanksgiving weekend? Might make it harder for some, or more free time at the end for others...all the more iron!

[Ritual]

Everyone's not American, Eric! ;)

[EricJ]

I'm not saying everyone is, but it throws a little twist in there for some...like if you're competing against an american...will they have 2 days off work at the end to perfect a piece, or will they be out of town all week with family and dnf...

[Ritual]

Yeah, could be an unforseen ingredient! Let's just wait and see what happens! But real iron doesn't let puny things like family holidays come in the way!! :approve:

[EricJ]

it's true, if you haven't pushed over a small child on your way back to painting at least once...not sure you deserve to win this thing! :P

[YoungWolf7]

Good thing we're hosting the family at our house this year. I can hide away downstairs and work away! :D

[Sculpta the squig]

Oi! Vike you lazy pub patron, post the scores! *shakes fist*

Squig

[demonherald]

hell some right scores there....congrats all ..ready for the next round woot woot....hmmm dropped my dominance level a couple of notches but Things will be different next round... I'm in full working order no ore housemoving and my to do list is shrinking....
seriously though congrats everyone possibly one of the highest quality comps I have seen online ..definitely the highest quality OSL theme..everyone really stepped up...lovely stuff on display...

[stubbdog]

Whethr or not I get to advance via the luck of the draw, Congrats to all of the winners is in order. All great paintjobs!

[alizardincrimson]

I lost! wheeeeeeee!
thank you!
I don't do this time limit thing well.....
but I'll be back :)
congrats to all the winners

[demonherald]

Oh and congrats Skya loved that piece from first WIP to final product a well deserved score....

[supervike]

A few notable notes!

Best In Theme: Skya with perfect 15: Beelzebrush with 14.5

Best in Technique: Skya, Wren AND Demonherald all with 14

Best in Overall Aesthetic: Skya with 28.5: Dragonforge and Beezlebrush each with 27.5

Highest TOTAL: Skya with 57.5 Beezlebrush with 55.5

Lowest Total: R2J1 with 29.5, Jack with 34

Lowest in Overall Aesthetic: R2-j1 with 15.5, Jack with 17;

Lowest in Technique: R2-j1 with 7; Jack 8

Lowest in Theme: r2-j1 7, LavronYor 8.5

Largest margin of Victory16 (skya over Jubliee) and 13 (Dragonforge over Uberdark)

Smallest margin of Victory 3.5 (Bexley over Lavrononyor).

Judges results and comments to be posted soon.

[supervike]

And now SCORES and Comments: (sorry, i've been about today)

RITUAL

slidedog:
Comment: I think this is good! You could have pushed the effect further by doing the unlit areas darker and less saturated (although you've used quite muted colours already) and let the light source really bring out the details. Well done altogether though.
theme: 4, technique: 3.5, overall: 8

Jubilee:
Comment: Hmm. I'm a little torn whether the effect works or not. In some places I think it does and in others I think it don't. I think, generally you have too little variation in the amount of ligt between the lower part (closer to the light source) and the upper part (where the reflections would be less prominent). The wings, though, are definitely less bright which is good. The eyes look a bit weird, but other than that it's a good piece!
theme: 3.5, technique: 3.5, overall: 7

demonherald:
Comment: This is an excellent piece! Very moody! First, though, I would like to say that I don't like the purple. I think that looks less well painted than the other parts and it sort of ruins the atmosphere. It clashes a bit with the other colours. But if I disregard from that area you have a splendid little scene with very well executed OSL. Maybe you have overdone the turquoise colouration of the tree trunk a tad, but it works! Technically, this is top notch!
theme: 4, technique: 4, overall: 8.5

EldinTux:
Comment: This is a simple piece, but a perfect illustration that an OSL effect can be simple and very effective. You have used the effect very well!
theme: 4, technique: 3, overall: 7.5

YoungWolf7:
Comment: Another simple, but powerful piece! I like how you've used the light source as basically the only colour, suggesting a very dark setting with the lantern being the only light source. I think the base looks a bit dull... a few plants or other "props" would have made a great difference.
theme: 4, technique: 3.5, overall: 8

LavronYor:
Comment: You have succeeded in making the light source look like a light source (though I would have made it brighter still, by going all the way to white). This is much due to the reflections in the blades. The reflections in the troll skin however doesn't work for me, I'm afraid, but look more like smudges. Whatever it is that glows green on the base works pretty well, though. And technically it is a solid mini.
theme: 2.5, technique: 3, overall: 6

stubbdog:
Comment: This is most impressive! The light effects look extremely convincing, at least from a distance. What bugs me slightly are the lack of colour on the minis (except for the light reflections) despite the very bright light. It suggests to me that the minis would be completely grey when seen in daylight. This is of course a slightly academic point, and the scene is very powerful. But it is something that struck me and also limit the technical aspect of this a bit. One thing that definitely bothers me, though, are the brocoli bases of the minis.
theme: 4.5, technique: 3.5, overall: 9

Darklord:
Comment: This is a very ambitious undertaking and as a first attempt not bad. But there are things to consider here. First and foremost... The brightest areas in this scene by far are the rays of light on the floor and the light reflections on the guards. The actual light source looks fairly dull in comparison. Then, I think the light rays are too pronounced, especially a bit away from the pyre. They should be more blurred and more so the further from the pyre you get. Then there is no trace of the shadows, causing the dark lines on the floor, on the guardsmen. One of them stands with his foot, bright and reflecting, right across a dark line. I think this piece would have been really good if it was only Denethor and the pyre. That thing on its own works really well.
theme: 3, technique: 3.5, overall: 7.5

Beelzebrush:
Comment: A fun and very well executed piece! The lighting effect is very believable. I like that you have taken into consideration how the coloured light affect different coloured surfaces and not just made everything take on the colour of the light source (which is a common mistake). That makes this very beleivable.
theme: 4.5, technique: 4, overall: 8.5

Morf:
Comment: Not a bad attempt at all! Some areas look quite believable. Others less so. The blue cloak displays a common mistake with coloured light sources. The areas where light are reflected turns completely green but keep basically the same value. Thus, it looks like the cloak changes colour but it doesn't look brighter where the light falls. This is best seen on the upper part of the mini, whereas the lower part looks more believable.
theme: 3, technique: 3.5, overall: 7.5

r2-j1:
Comment: You said it yourself... this doesn't work that well for me either. It seems as if there is no system in how the light reflections are placed making it very hard to read the miniature. Also, the painting seems a bit blurry which adds to the readability problem. Keep at it though, and don't give up. I know you can do better!
theme: 2, technique: 2, overall: 5

alizardincrimson:
Comment: This is a funny piece! I like how you've done the lighting effect, though I think it could be a bit more smoothly blended. I especially like how you have made a magenta-tinted halo in the outer regions of the light reflections. That adds credibility! The base is a bit boring though, don't you think?
theme: 4, technique: 3, overall: 7

jed:
Comment: Not bad at all! Technically very well done! I also like how the light works on the pixie's coat and on the child. The light on the ground is much too saturated though, and IMO not light enough. Too much saturation and too little brightness. The same can be said about how the pumpkin is lit. As the orange is pretty much on the opposite of the colour wheel it wouldn't reflect very much blue. You should have focused on making it brighter instead of making it bluer. But, other than that this is a great piece.
theme: 3.5, technique: 3.5, overall: 8

Brushmistress:
Comment: This is a great scene! The OSL works excellently. I do think the burning pumpkin should illuminate some areas a bit more, though. It seems to illuminate the tree trunk quite much and the back of the horse, but it illuminates the zombie far less and the ground on the opposite side of the horse none at all. Technically this is most excellent.
theme: 4.5, technique: 4, overall: 9

Dragonforge:
Comment: Splendid scene! The red OSL from the flamer is pretty much perfect and you seem to have thought about how the colour of the light interact with the colours of the surfaces it reflects in. The green and blue light reflections are a bit too saturated, IMO, to look truly believable and I think perhaps that the blue light is a bit strong considering where it comes from. Technically, this is great and I am impressed that you (and plenty of others) have had the time to do things this elaborate.
theme: 4.5, technique: 4, overall: 9

Jack:
Comment: Not the best of photos to judge by... But it seems the OSL works pretty well. A simple mini with a simple effect, but well executed and that is more important than complexity.
theme: 3, technique: 3, overall: 6

Uberdark:
Comment: You need to sort out your photography, John! Again, not the best photos to judge by, but it seems the OSL works quite well. The light sources look bright, and also hot, and you have done well in how the orange light reflects in the blue skin. You have not overdone the colouration, but focused on the brightness. On the base there are shadows that bother me slightly as they seem a result from only one light source where the other light source cast no shadows.
theme: 3.5, technique: 3.5, overall: 7.5

Skya:
Comment: This is an extraordinary piece! My definite favourite of this round. This is the sort of inventive takes on the theme that you have displayed before and earned you the title. This is totally believable and absolutely beautiful!
theme: 5, technique: 4.5, overall: 9.5

Thryth:
Comment: Pretty simple, but very well executed! You have gone for atmosphere here and it works! Well done!
theme: 4, technique: 3.5, overall: 8

Duende:
Comment: An inventive (although uber-girly) take on the theme! The effect is very well executed, although the blendings could be much smoother. Still, very evocative!
theme: 4, technique: 3, overall: 7

Lordfishbane:
Comment: Good idea here! I've had ideas about a similar scene using the Hasslefree stripper mini. The effect works very well making the scene perfectly believable. Tecnically, blendings could be smoother.
theme: 4, techinque: 3, overall: 7.5

Bexley:
Comment: This is not a bad attempt at all. I see you have had the idea to make the unlit areas pretty much black suggesting that the lantern is the only source of light. What ruins this a bit is that the black is somewhat glossy and reflects light from your photo setup. I suggest you use completely matte paints (use matte medium if you want to be certain) and also not make things completely black, but almost. Break off the complete blackness with a little bit of whatever colour the surface should have when it's well lit.
theme: 3, technique: 3, overall: 6.5

skrivanek:
Comment: The effect works well on the surroundings, but I don't think it interacts much with the miniatures. They cast no shadows, for instance. And I don't see much signs of light reflections specifically from the light source on them either. Well, painted though.
theme: 2, technique: 3.5, overall: 7.5

Wren:
Comment: Ok, this is also one of my favourites this round. You have done extremely well with a quite simple concept. I really like how you've played with the colour temperature here, making the unlit areas very cold and the lit areas very warm. That makes this very atmospheric and, above all, believable. You also seem to have thought about how the colours of light and surfaces interact. Very, very well done!
theme: 4.5, technique: 5, overall: 9

ERIC

Wren
Technique: 4.5
Theme: 4.5
Overall: 9
Comment: Definitely better on a dark background, which really makes the OSL pop. What I particularly like about it is that it doesn't overwhelm the scene and grab all the attention, but rather sets the scene and completes it, creating the ambience which draws the viewer in. Great Job! The blending is very smooth and the shading and highlights are just right. I think it might have been better to just post it with the dark background, but it's interesting to see the difference.


Skrivanek
Technique: 3.5
Theme: 3.5
Overall: 7.5
Comment: It's a nice scene, although I have to admit that the OSL wasn't quite as intuative as I'd like, I have to search around to figure out just what was going on, which could perhaps have been simply a photography issue, as there seems like a lot of potential here but the scene just doesn't quite pop off the screen. The technique looks good, although the shots are a little bit drawn back to see the finer details on the figures.


Bexley
Technique: 3.5
Theme: 3.5
Overall: 7.5
Comment: The minis are great and it's a fun scene. The OSL works in the 1st shot particularly, but in the others looks like the lantern isn't giving off enough light on the figures. The base is a little simple, and I think you could have added a point of interest or two to it to complete the scene. In terms of technique it looks great with the osl highlights, however the backsides look rather dull, which is a difficulty of the technique, however the reflection in the photo is quite distracting!


Lordfishbane
Technique: 3
Theme: 4
Overall: 7.5
Comment: I like the scene! OSL is the perfect technique to make it really work. The light in the photo might be a little too stark however and seems to wash out the figure a bit too much. Tough to tell if it's the photo or not. The technique looks a little rough in places with the metals though and brings down your score a little, although again it's tough to tell how much the osl is playing tricks with the photography.


Duende
Technique: 3.5
Theme: 4
Overall: 7.5
Comment: A very cool idea and I like the result, and the idea of having the osl coming from inside the figure is a great one. There is some roughness in the blending and a few places that the osl looks a little funny, but in many ways it seems like it's a result of taking on a challenging idea.


Thryth
Technique: 4
Theme: 4.5
Overall: 8.5
Comment: Nice work, the osl very much sets the scene here and the color, placement and intensity of the the highlights throughout work very well. There is a little roughness in the blending, particularly on the back of the chair which brings down the scene a little bit, but overall one of my favorites this round.


Skya
Technique: 4.5
Theme: 5
Overall: 9.5
Comment: I think this is the first time I've really been convinced my light coming through stained glass, the highlights, shadows, colors and ambience of the piece are all just right. There are just a few places which look a bit rough, and no doubt a little rough due to the time frame of the piece. Great job.


Uberdark
Technique: 4
Theme: 3
Overall: 7
Comment: Good job on the flames, I'm always happy to see someone getting fire right! The osl is good but the color shift does look a bit too extreme , which makes the osl look too dependent on color rather than highlighting/shading. The painting however is quite good and I actually like the colors you've chosen and the brushwork looks good as well. Overall I think that with a little more work you'll really be able to get osl to work for you.


Jack
Technique: 2.5
Theme:3.5
Overall: 5.5
Comment: Well, first off the photo is a bit tough to get past since it leaves the mini a bit out of focus. I'd expect this is bringing down your technique score since everything looks a bit "off" although from what I can see the OSL actually looks well done, with properly placed highlights, shadows. I hope you have a chance to rephoto this one at some point.


Dragonforge
Technique: 4.5
Theme: 4
Overall: 9
Comment: Really nice scene you've created here! The painting is really nice and really helps to create the gritty mood of the piece. I like the 3 different OSL's, although I think the flamethrower makes the most effective one. The blue seems a bit too dependent on color shift and not enough shift in highlights. The green looks ok, although again I think it would look better if it was a bit more dependent on highlights and shadows rather than color. Overall it's not major and the OSL really works to create the ambience of the piece.


Brushmistress
Technique: 4.5
Theme: 4.5
Overall: 8.5
Comment: Another great OSL scene, and really nice results here. The osl is well done and well placed with the only drawback being that it seems like it doesn't extend quite far enough. I think that if we saw some more highlights on the leaves below. In fact I think that the leaves are what's drawing back the overall look of the piece. Without much definition to the leaves from the OSL it makes the ground seem a bit to chaotic and uniform without focus. Overall really nice work!


Jed
Technique: 4.5
Theme: 4.5
Overall: 8
Comment: Fun little scene, and I think the OSL really sets the scene nicely. This is a great example of well exicuted shift in color along with an appropriately great shift in highlights which makes it work. The blending looks great as well, particularly on the pumpkin head! I think a large part of whats holding back the overall score is the rather plain basework here, and the paint that looks like its running over the edge. Really nice work here however and one of my favorite uses of colored osl this round.


alizardincrimson
Technique: 3
Theme: 3.5
Overall: 6.5
Comment: It's funny, painted normally this piece wouldn't make much sense because the thing behind him is just a little too chaotic, however the OSL gives it that ambience which makes it feel like something is sneaking up behind him. I think it might be a little bit TOO extreme and not quite believeable in intensity, but it does work on some levels. I think you should keep working with osl though, you seem to have a knack of using it to create the scene.


r2-j1
Technique: 2.5
Theme: 2.5
Overall: 5
Comment: I think you had something here and just missed the mark some. It seems like you lost track of your light source and just didn't get your head around where you were going with your highlights, and due to that you didn't take the time to smooth the blends. You have a lot of the theories right and with a bit more focus on the light source I think this could turn out well. I hope it doesn't discourage you from working more with the technique as there is promise here!


Morf
Technique: 4
Theme: 4
Overall: 9
Comment: You got the special extra bonus point for making me laugh, I really like this scene. The painting of the light source is quite good and it really works, altough I think with a light like that it would be a bit more than just a little glow on the miniature itself, so stronger highlights there might have helped. The painting is solid, particularly the rust effects, overall a great looking scene!


Beelzebrush
Technique: 4.5
Theme: 5
Overall: 9.5
Comment: More than any other mini in this contest, when I see the thumbnail of this piece, I just KNEW it was going to work even before clicking to see the full sized version. The highlights and shadows are well placed and really create the whole ambience of the scene and it really does just all work. Great work.


Darklord
Technique: 4
Theme: 4
Overall: 8
Comment: Nice scene! You've done nicely recreating the movie moment here the the osl makes the scene and sets the ambience, good job. You've done great here but there is one part of the osl which throws it off for me, which is the fact the one guys shield is all bright when it looks like it should have some shadow across it. The painting is very nice and tidy although there is some blurryness to the photos which brings it down some. Overall I think this piece is quite a success


Stubbdog
Technique: 4
Theme: 4.5
Overall: 8.5
Comment: Very Ambitious and large scene to do in 2 weeks! I'm impressed. Another piece with a strong sense of the light source which really sets the scene for the entire thing. I really like the contrast of the white light vs. the yellowish light on the walls, that is a really nice touch. Nice work!


LavronYor
Technique: 3.5
Theme: 3
Overall: 7
Comment: This piece does have a good sense of the light source, but I think it relies a little too much on color shift and not highlights and shadows. I like the blue and overall the painting is solid. I like what you've done with the base as well!


Youngwolf7
Technique: 4
Theme: 4
Overall: 8
Comment: The OSL definietly creates a great ambience for the piece and the monotone look is great and gives a feel for the light source. The only problem is that the lantern doesn't look bright enough for the scene, and in fact some of the highlights seem brighter than the lantern itself. The painting looks solid, although I would like a little more interest to justify such a large base.


Eldintux
Technique: 3
Theme: 4
Overall: 7
Comment: This piece is also an effective example of OSL, with a bright light source and the highlights and shading well. The painting looks a little rough in a few places, and the highlights on his robe don't look quite as good at those on his skin and hair. OVerall a nice example of well exicuted OSL.


Demonherald
Technique: 5
Theme: 4
Overall: 9
Comment: Really nice scene and great use of OSL. This one is a bit too color dependent for my tastes as opposed to highlight/shadowing based, but otherwise it does do a great job creating the ambience for the piece. Your painting is top notch as always, your blends are great and the construction of the entire scene is great. Great work!



Jubilee
Technique: 4
Theme: 3.5
Overall: 8
Comment: I like the scene and feel of this piece although for me the highlights for the osl are a bit too abrupt and as such doesn't quite give the feeling of radiating light/heat from below. Your painting and blends look great as always although to me the bone at the end of the wings bring it down as they look rather stark in contrast to the rest. Overall nice work, but for me it's not the favorite work you've done.


Slidedog
Technique: 4
Theme: 4
Overall: 8
Comment: These witches are actually some of my favorite minis strangely enough, although I can't say exactly why... I do really like what you've done with the pieces and the scene you've created with your basework here. The OSL is good but I feel like the light source in the fire could have been highlighted a little more to create the look of a the light source. Overall the painting is quite solid although there are a few places where I feel the blending could be smoothed.
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Wren
Technique: 4.5
Theme: 4.5
Overall: 8.5


Skrivanek
Technique: 3
Theme: 3.5
Overall: 7.5


Bexley
Technique: 3.5
Theme: 3.5
Overall: 7.5


Lordfishbane
Technique: 3
Theme: 3
Overall: 6


Duende
Technique: 3.5
Theme: 4
Overall: 7.5


Thryth
Technique: 4
Theme: 4.5
Overall: 8


Skya
Technique: 5
Theme: 5
Overall: 9.5


Uberdark
Technique: 4
Theme: 3
Overall: 7


Jack
Technique: 2.5
Theme: 2.5
Overall: 5.5


Dragonforge
Technique: 5
Theme: 5
Overall: 9.5


Brushmistress
Technique: 5
Theme: 5
Overall: 8.5


Jed
Technique: 4.5
Theme: 4.5
Overall: 8.5


alizardincrimson
Technique: 3
Theme: 3
Overall: 6


r2-j1
Technique: 2.5
Theme: 2.5
Overall: 5.5


Morf
Technique: 4
Theme: 4
Overall: 9.5



Beelzebrush
Technique: 5
Theme: 5
Overall: 9.5


Darklord
Technique: 4
Theme: 4
Overall: 8


Stubbdog
Technique: 4
Theme: 4
Overall: 7.5
(I have a feeling this one would be higher overall if I could see details - still, even far away it looks damn impressive).


LavronYor
Technique: 3
Theme: 3
Overall: 7


Youngwolf7
Technique: 4
Theme: 4
Overall: 8.5


Eldintux
Technique: 3
Theme: 3.5
Overall: 7


Demonherald
Technique: 5
Theme: 5
Overall: 9.5


Jubilee
Technique: 3
Theme: 3
Overall: 6
Okay, I said I wouldn't comment but this one I almost have to I think. I love Jubilee's work 90% of the time. Hell her recent piece for Dark Sword blew me away. This one though, I'm not sure if its the theme, the miniature or what that is just really really not doing it for me. I almost feel bad for the scoring here from me but felt I had to explain atleast somewhat. I think its the lava/charcoal look that I really don't care for and for some reason they eyes just look really out of place.
I think maybe if you had gone the route of making them coal burning hot with some OSL that would have suited this piece where as not it seems like an Angel walked past a vent and POOF she got hit with all this ash, her bright eyes blinking a few times as if to say 'whaa happened?!?' Actually, I hate the mini too - nothing against anyone, just ... really don't like it.

Sorry Ali, I know I'm going to be the bastard judge here but I figured I best explain myself at the very least.


Slidedog
Technique: 4
Theme: 4
Overall: 8

[Dragonforge]

Hi Judges,

Thanks for the comments, I for one really appreciate them. I agree with both Eric and Ritual that the blue and somewhat the greens really come off to bright in the photos which is really weird because in real life they are much darker. Im wondering if its something in the P3 paint that give the colors..both are kind of a florescent colors..they might actually be truely "Glowing"

The guy with the flamer was the last figure for me to paint and I think as I progressed I was understanding the technique better.

I look forward to Testing my Iron in round 3

[Sculpta the squig]

What happened to "judging" the non-entries?

Squig

[EricJ]

What happened to "judging" the non-entries?

Squig


I'll get to it shortly! promise :)

[Thryth]

Thanks to Supervike and the judges for their time and effort. I appreciate the feedback (which is one of the reasons that I enter IP), and thanks to everyone else that commented.

[Beelzebrush]

Aye thanks to SV and the judges for good, solid and consistant whatchamacalliting...

Already looking forward to the rigours of round three!

[Bexley]

I see you have had the idea to make the unlit areas pretty much black suggesting that the lantern is the only source of light. What ruins this a bit is that the black is somewhat glossy and reflects light from your photo setup. I suggest you use completely matte paints (use matte medium if you want to be certain) and also not make things completely black, but almost. Break off the complete blackness with a little bit of whatever colour the surface should have when it's well lit.

I blame my photography. The whole thing got several coats of Dullcote, and there isn't a single use of straight black anywhere on there- I started with an overall basecoat of 75-25 Thamar Black-Coal Black. Coal Black being a dull dark blue.

Of course, my brand new pricey Nikon with lots of bells and whistles showed up the Monday after the deadline...

[Sculpta the squig]

Is it a Nikon D80?

Squig

[demonherald]

Aye thanks to SV and the judges for good, solid and consistant whatchamacalliting...

Already looking forward to the rigours of round three!

there's a round three..stop reminding me...nah only kidding looking forward to the next round I have a reasonably reliable seller who can send me something by Tuesday should the theme call for it.. But the sleeves are rolled up and ready.

Wo Judges that's a hell of a lot of wok you gone done particularly you nath:)

seriously though the feedback is great and yet another reason to enter IP..
Anders I agree on the purple in the pics but in the flesh it is totally different just a colour that my camera seemed to really like exposing...on some pics it came out white others pink..it is actually quite dark but Ideally I should have gone with a turquoisy green or something to tie with the blue green at the back...The tree I think because of its angle caught more light in the pic than needed but thanks much appreciated..

Eric cheers I was thinking at the start subtle with light colour changes or heavy coloured light and plumped for heavy colour as it set the magical essence of what I was going for more...Also even though they're not the best I knew I had more chance of capturing a coloured light on the pics than a more natural one...

I have already said it a million times but I'll say again a cracking round of minis...hats off all

(Oh and just so you don't feel left out.. SV Your awesome)

and stubbdog vs Jed a Coin toss then ??? 13.5 each or.....let them both through and Paintminion from round one makes for nice even numbers to the final....or ask a passing circus performer to draw a name out of Vike's pants....

[Dragonforge]

I blame my photography. The whole thing got several coats of Dullcote, and there isn't a single use of straight black anywhere on there- I started with an overall basecoat of 75-25 Thamar Black-Coal Black. Coal Black being a dull dark blue.

Of course, my brand new pricey Nikon with lots of bells and whistles showed up the Monday after the deadline...

Thats why I try to paint with as pure flat paints and no inks to avoid any sine and then I do not dull coat. I find even dull coat reflects with the amount of dulling agent in it.

Unless the figure is for gaming or going for sale on eBay..I no longer use dull coat. If I have a troubled shiny area Ill use Microscales flat coat.. brush it on where needed.

[Hinton]

I'd just like to say thanks to everyone that takes the time to comment on the "I think I can" entries. We may be down (and even out), but it's still fun to participate from the sidelines.

[EricJ]

I'll give a score and comment to those entries just like the others, just give me a little for my mind to relax after going through all of those straight!

[supervike]

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and stubbdog vs Jed a Coin toss then ??? 13.5 each or.....let them both through and Paintminion from round one makes for nice even numbers to the final....or ask a passing circus performer to draw a name out of Vike's pants....

No, actually not.

From my scoring sheet, I show Jed has scored 12.5 in Theme (ritual 3.5; eric 4.5; and Nathan 4.5) but Stubbdog has 13 (Ritual 4.5;Eric 4.5;Nathan 4)....so STUBBDOG wins the 'Hey gimme another chance award!"

Please feel free to check my math and correct me if needed. Note that Ritual puts the voting format differently than the other two.

[EricJ]

so it's basically all Anders fault for confusing everyone? :P

[Sculpta the squig]

So it would seem, Vikey get a move on and post the next theme! :Þ

Squig

[jed]

No, actually not.

From my scoring sheet, I show Jed has scored 12.5 in Theme (ritual 3.5; eric 4.5; and Nathan 4.5) but Stubbdog has 13 (Ritual 4.5;Eric 4.5;Nathan 4)....so STUBBDOG wins the 'Hey gimme another chance award!"

Please feel free to check my math and correct me if needed. Note that Ritual puts the voting format differently than the other two.

I'm affraid your math is good this time :) AAAAAAAAAAARGH so so SO CLOSE!!!!!!!

oh, well

good luck Stubbdog!!! was a lot of fun to participate in this contest - now I gotta go and practice before next IP :)

@Wren - I'll PM you soon about the 'loosing fee'

[demonherald]

ooh that Anders .....................also I should have looked at it better and realised....
Weel the Dog is a little stubbier after a chewing from the demon but he's back by the looks of it ....cool I can feel a little less guilty..... (although what is a little less than not at all??)

[stubbdog]

To say the least, I am happy to gain a mulligan, and hope to take advantage of it as best I can, ut at the same time, I want to take a second to say to Jed, that I really liked your second round entry. The composition with that spry smirking pumpkin was just a great touch and perfect for the teasing of the vial.

[Dragonforge]

Now it would be really funny if Stubbdoggie got Demonherald again.. in round 3

[goblyn13]

Now it would be really funny if Stubbdoggie got Demonherald again.. in round 3

would be even funnier if stub dog wins and Demonherald gets the mulligan next round

[supervike]

Yep! Jed did a fantastic job, but Stubbdog did slightly better...Such is the fickle finger of fate that is Iron Painter!!

I will posts matchups and theme tommorow morning...

I have just gone and commented on all the entries, in case anyone cares....

[Dragonforge]

Yep! Jed did a fantastic job, but Stubbdog did slightly better...Such is the fickle finger of fate that is Iron Painter!!

I will posts matchups and theme tommorow morning...

I have just gone and commented on all the entries, in case anyone cares....

I care, and I will not confirm or deny he has cartoons on his scanner ;)

[supervike]

I thought it would be interesting to keep track of everything I did today and incorporate that into my BLOG over at COOL MINI...

It turned out that I was wrong, it was not interesting, but I'll share anyhow...

http://blog.coolminiornot.com/supervike

I only share here since you can tell by when I posted the various stuff, what was going on 'in my world'....

Besides, I find this all oddly therapeutic....

Good night.

[EldinTux]

Can I just add my thanks to the jufges, the feed back I think is the most useful part.
@Thryth if you pm me your address I'll send you your mini

[Morf]

Thanks for the write-up, good to get some feedback.
Overall I keep saying to myslef I need to spend more time on my entries,
maybe Round 3 will be the time?

[demonherald]

would be even funnier if stub dog wins and Demonherald gets the mulligan next round

and then the next round same again..could turn into the stubbdog and demonherald happy fun time dance paint off...

[Lordfishbane]

Dont let us losers down Stubbs, win it for the Gipper!!!!

[EricJ]

Didn't a 2nd chance person from early rounds end up making it to the final in the last IP?

[Ritual]

I remember Stupidcow getting his ass kicked twice. He got pretty far though... before the second ass-kicking! :p:

[YoungWolf7]

Meh. It won't matter. I know who will win this IP. ;)

[Thryth]

Meh. It won't matter. I know who will win this IP. ;)

Skya?

[Dragonforge]

Hi everyone..I just posted my entry to CMON, so if you wouldnt mind giving me a vote please

http://www.coolminiornot.com/173847

Thank you very much-

Jeff

[YoungWolf7]

Skya?
We shall see...

[LavronYor]

I would also like to thank everyone for the comments and especially the judges and the Super supervike....

I left for vacation right after I saw the scores and didn't have time to post til tonight...

the other Stubbs...

Bexley, send me your address and I will get your prize in the mail. although if you tell me what you like in minis, I will try to accomodate...

[stubbdog]

? the other Stubbs what?

[Duende]

I would have like to seen a "dog"fight in the matchups... slide vs. stubbs. :D

Maybe next round!

[Sculpta the squig]

What happened to the "non-entry" comments???

Squig

[Frustrated Father]

What happened to the "non-entry" comments???

Squig

Pretty sure I said I wouldn't be doing them, or judging them, due to time constraints and that the other judges likely wouldn't either but said they would if they 'could'.

Besides, to be honest, I've got both Anders and Eric buried under work for the next set of releases and something special we're going to put out in December as well and I'm sure the two of them are rather tired of me putting boot to ass.

We will if we can, either way its nice to see the entries.

[Hinton]

I'm not concerned about my "I think I can" entry getting scored. Several people have left some very helpful comments on it, so I'm good.

Speaking of which, I should go comment on the other two entries in that section.

[Bexley]

Oooh! A Wyrd Xmas mini? I'd buy that in a hot second.

[Frustrated Father]

Heh, no, more like six miniature releases (in three packs) and the e-zine which hopefully will have much in the way of goodness.

We've thought about holiday minis and may actually look into them more realistically next year, but for the moment we're focusing more on the game minis.

[Wren]

There are some holidays with very poor representation that you might Wyrdify. I've seen lots of Christmas, and a few leprechauns for St. Patrick's Day, and half the minis that are made suit for Hallowe'en. But I think Easter needs some attention, maybe a Wyrd White Rabbit to hang out with Seamus the Mad Hatter?

[supervike]

Hiya all....

Please wrap this thread up with final thoughts and all, since I will 'unstick and close' it a bit later, just to keep all the new stuff in the same thread.

Thanks!