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Frustrated Father
11-02-2007, 05:36 PM
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The time for entry submission is over and now we move forward with the viewing and voting for the Rotten Harvest III Wyrd Painting Contest.

Entries have been edited, placed in their proper categories and are now up for you to view and leave comments on.

The galleries will be up a full day before opening the polls so that if there are any mistakes or discrepancies, you can let us know before the voting begins. Hopefully there are none, but if you see something that needs to be rectified or if you have a question upon, please contact me privately.

When 24 hours has passed, we'll place the voting polls up and you will be able to vote for your favorite three in their respective categories. Keep in mind, in order to vote and/or comment in the galleries, you MUST have a user account here on Wyrd.

When leaving comments in the galleries, please remember to be constructive in any critique, good or bad, and remember your manners. The moderators and myself will be reading these as we go along - keep it constructive and if it is your own entry that you are commenting on, don't give yourself away over it as it would be a shame to disqualify you for something easily avoided.

When the polls are placed, they will be open for seven days. In that time, please take a moment to vote for your favorite three in each category. The top three in each category will win, respectively 1st place, 2nd place and 3rd place. Best of Show, Best Base or Diorama and Best of Wyrd naturally only have one winner.

In order to encourage participation in the voting and commenting on the galleries, we will choose five RANDOM SCHMUCKS to win prizes for voting on all the categories and commenting on all of the entries.


DIRECT LINK TO GALLERIES (http://wyrd-games.net/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=527)
POLL: Not Quite Dead Yet (http://wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?t=3409)
POLL: The Harrowing Harvest (http://wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?t=3410)
POLL: The Trick or Treat (http://wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?t=3411)
POLL: Things that go Bump in the Night (http://wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?t=3412)
POLL: Witches and Warlocks (http://wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?t=3413)
POLL: Best Base or Diorama (http://wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?t=3414)
POLL: Best of Show (http://wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?t=3415)
POLL: Best of Wyrd (http://wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?t=3416)


BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO MORE WORK AND EDITING THAN NEEDED PLEASE READ THE RULES WHEN VOTING AND SELECT THREE (3) ENTRIES PER POLL!

IF YOU DON'T, YOU INVALIDATE YOUR WHOLE VOTES AND I HAVE TO REMOVE IT AND SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE DONE SO ALREADY!

-
Nathan Caroland

Sculpta the squig
11-02-2007, 06:46 PM
Holy Bumfudge Batman! There are so few entries, If I had just gotten one in I would have had a decent chance *sob*

Squig

DrEvilmonki
11-03-2007, 06:17 AM
Yeah seems a bit quieter this time. But I have already started some entries for the next round of comps.

lauth81
11-03-2007, 08:34 AM
There are some nice entries in there, too bad there are so few. I guess the contest clashed with other contests ... And holding IP4 ath the same time didn´t help either maybe

callumrice
11-03-2007, 08:40 AM
Yep, a low turn out but still some quality there.

demonherald
11-03-2007, 10:47 AM
Holy Bumfudge Batman! There are so few entries, If I had just gotten one in I would have had a decent chance *sob*

Squig

If a lot of people had there would have been more...

IP is a bugger of a clash in some ways but that said only 26 in the current round...There is some nice stuff though Harrowing harvest is really good. I'd say the biggest clash is everywhere else on the web..reaper, arcaneminis , tons more all have October deadlines...just about every comp online has fairly low turnouts due to the clashes...in one way though hopefully people will see this and be encouragd to enter next time...

Frustrated Father
11-03-2007, 11:16 AM
Two-three years ago you couldn't get an online contest unless it was Chick Challenge for the most part and we slid on in and filled a gap when they left which was rather nice to be honest. I also think that when we allowed all the sponsors on that it brought in a good many and also kept them from doing competing competitions.

Unfortunately, about half of the sponsors couldn't be bothered to take the time to actually send the support packages that were promised, including some rather big names which would surprise some if I was to bother to do the shame and tell bit (which I'm not).

That being said, I think we still had one of the largest turn outs for the contest amongst many of the others, I certainly think we've spent enough time and money having the software customized and making it the easiest in terms of participation and when its all said and done next time, we're going to make certain that we don't trod on our own toes by clashing with the giant that IP has become (and very cool that it has IMO).

That and I think we've decided to do a special contest miniature for the future (waggles eyebrows) which you can only get through participation in the contest and certain other means (but never sold). Might just make it a Werner piece to go along with the others he is working on now ....

Anyhoo, though slightly disappointed at the turn out, I think the quality and interesting takes on the miniatures have certainly taken a step up and again, appreciate everyone who takes the time to participate!

Wren
11-03-2007, 11:29 AM
Participation is a little lower than in the past, but I don't think it's tragic or anything. (I am a little surprised that witches and warlocks is such a light category, that's normally pretty popular.) I am very sad that I didn't get anything in personally, but I enjoyed my quick look at the entries and I'm sure I'll have even more fun when I go in to vote and comment seriously. There is some impressively cool and creative stuff!

Another possibility is to consider trying one the way Skya has often suggested - don't require anonymous entries that have never been posted before. You could require something that's never been in a contest before so people don't just regurgitate a bunch of GD entries and the like, and/or something that's been painted in the last few months. Slow painters, people who like feedback and pro painters who hype their stuff to keep visible and build a rep might find it easier to enter. I agree it increases the risk of biased voting and it's not quite as suspenseful, but maybe it's worth trying to see if it improves participation?

Thryth
11-03-2007, 12:21 PM
Again, IP4 took the time I would have spent on this (although I did squeak-in one entry).

My two cents... making it non-anonymous would deter me from entering, personally. There are so many non-anonymous competitions that the Wyrd contests being anonymous makes it different enough for me to chose to enter it instead of them. Although the turn-out was for this Wyrd competition was lower than usual, it is still higher than most on-line competitions that I see, and the fact that these are newly painted miniatures increases my interest to view the entries. That tuned-out to be more than two cents, I guess. :)

Back to the topic at hand...

Some interesting takes on the contest this time around. The number of entries made it easy for me to comment on all of them! :)

Now back to IP4...

Hinton
11-03-2007, 12:30 PM
Like thryth, I would prefer that it stay anonymous for two reasons:

1) It's fun to look at tne entries and wonder who did it.

2) It deters people from voting on familiar or "popular" painters only.

Just my opinion on that.

callumrice
11-03-2007, 02:55 PM
I agree with all, keep it anonymous.

Sometimes I look on CMON and see minis rated 7.5 and above and I think "your having a laugh" but then I read comments like "thought Id give you a 10 mate to balance up the score as it was looking a little low" and I think god, what a mockery of the voting system. Twonk!!

Anyway, that doesnt happen in these contests and your also much more likely to get honest comments, even from your fellow online chums, as sometimes i certainly feel that if you know who the painter is then you are a little intimidated to tell them you think their NMM stinks, especially if its someone popular on the forums.

Sculpta the squig
11-03-2007, 03:18 PM
If a lot of people had there would have been more...

IP is a bugger of a clash in some ways but that said only 26 in the current round...There is some nice stuff though Harrowing harvest is really good. I'd say the biggest clash is everywhere else on the web..reaper, arcaneminis , tons more all have October deadlines...just about every comp online has fairly low turnouts due to the clashes...in one way though hopefully people will see this and be encouragd to enter next time...


Yeah, but I had several entries started that never got fnished due to "Real Life" (horrible stuff that is) and being horribly ill for a month.

Squig

billrobertson42
11-03-2007, 03:56 PM
I like the anonymity. Also, what is IP(4)?

Frustrated Father
11-03-2007, 03:57 PM
Just a reminder, making up dual identities isn't a good idea, particularly the six I just caught and removed which I can only assume would be used to pad the voting.

Don't do it.

It really pisses me off.

Last warning, from here out all accounts doing this will be banned, so will your IP address so you won't be able to even take a sniff at the website and if you happen to have an entry in the contest it will be disqualified and I'll be more than happy to name and shame to prevent it from happening again.

Frustrated Father
11-03-2007, 04:01 PM
IP4 is Iron Painter Four.

Anonymity has been and always will be a part of our contests. If I wanted to be like everyone else and just go for the most entries in order to make things look good and to pad the submissions then that would be an option but I for one like knowing that favorites aren't being played and more to the point, that someone took the time to do something special for the Wyrd contests.

Can anyone tell from the tone above that I'm seriously aggrivated with bogus accounts? Anyhoo, just cause I know I'm coming off as an ass right now, Rhonda, a good suggestion, just one that doesn't fit for us at the moment. Heck, atleast I'm not a complete dillwood and only require Wyrd mini's in the contests.

Like supporting the hobby - all of it.

Now, off to remove some accounts.

Sculpta the squig
11-03-2007, 04:05 PM
Where do we vote Nathan?

Squig

Frustrated Father
11-03-2007, 04:09 PM
In the poles, as usual, when I put them up, which will be later tonight some time.

I'll edit the front page post with direct links at that time.

Skya
11-03-2007, 04:16 PM
Are we going to get to indicate preferences for 1st 2nd and 3rd this time? It makes more of a difference when there are fewer entries.

Frustrated Father
11-03-2007, 04:19 PM
Nope, voting per the usual until I dedicate cash to some serious coding and quite frankly, less work for me.

Skya
11-03-2007, 04:25 PM
Fair enough.

Frustrated Father
11-03-2007, 04:35 PM
One of these days I hope to do just as you've asked, with 1st play getting three dots, second two dots and third place only one dot and then when its all said and done, the 'dots' are tallied up and allow for a clear presentation of peoples thoughts.

Unfortunately, unless I learn to code myself, which isn't going to happen, I'm going to have to hire it out and though I do eventually plan on it, right now it is the difference on doing that or whether to pay for an additional sculpt out of the umpteen being sculpted right now.

One day I hope.

Now, I go back to being a sour puss.

demonherald
11-03-2007, 04:49 PM
th anonymity thing really works well...It'd be good in IP as well to some degree although it would take away the fun element of it..just imagine seeing an awesome WIP and not knowing if that is your opponent.....hee hee...

btw is there a way of checking your own pics after uploading in the anonymous comps..Just curious as that is something that can bugger some peoples entries up and they could then rectify themselves..just a thought...

@squig..That wasn't a pop at you chief ..or anyone..real life happens and generally sucks..it was just a random if more people only entered one there would be more..but certainly not a pop chief....

Frustrated Father
11-03-2007, 04:57 PM
One of the things I want to fix Rob. Our old gallery allowed for you to know it was uploaded, but wouldn't show anything. This software doesn't allow for it, but is better in many other ways so thus we're with this one. I can only hope that one day they'll do some updates to it that'll allow for this, otherwise its the same old for it.

Also one of the reasons why we allow for a full day plus a bit of time on that in order to view entries and take a look over them to make certain that they are all there, nothing is screwy and at the same time, weed out the folks that forgot about the anonymity rule. One of these days I'll get it 'perfect' but that'll take more money than we've got at the moment.

demonherald
11-03-2007, 05:04 PM
Not to mention that thing that we don't make anymore of no matter how hard we try..."TIME"...

DrEvilmonki
11-03-2007, 06:30 PM
Commented on all (I hope) at least with the slightly fewer entries I found it easier to remember what I had already seen.

callumrice
11-03-2007, 06:58 PM
One of the things I want to fix Rob. Our old gallery allowed for you to know it was uploaded, but wouldn't show anything. This software doesn't allow for it, but is better in many other ways so thus we're with this one. I can only hope that one day they'll do some updates to it that'll allow for this, otherwise its the same old for it.

Also one of the reasons why we allow for a full day plus a bit of time on that in order to view entries and take a look over them to make certain that they are all there, nothing is screwy and at the same time, weed out the folks that forgot about the anonymity rule. One of these days I'll get it 'perfect' but that'll take more money than we've got at the moment.


There is a way everyone, Tyrth brought it to my attention and I duly gave him some respect points!

although it doesnt physically say "you have uploaded a pic" all you do is check your gallery. If it states you have one more pic than you can actually see then guess what, bish bash bosh, your in!

callumrice
11-03-2007, 07:03 PM
And im with Nath on that double account thing. It absolutely stinks. Not only does it screw with peoples hard time and effort of sorting anonymous comps and fair play (nath and the lads) it also pisses off genuine contestants like me who is just plainly trying to show support to the Wyrd comps and all that it stands for.

Not only that, I want to know how good I am/get/need to be to help me improve and if some pillock (or more as Nath is suggesting) keeps padding out their own entries then one day im really going to think that painting a mini with a cricket bat IS the way to go.

Total fannies. I say name and shame now Nath, its ridiculous that you have tolerated it even for this amount of time.

Coneman
11-03-2007, 07:52 PM
There are still some great entires despite the low turnout, well done to all that entered.

Not having the galleries full of pro painted entries is a good confidence booster for us little guys, we may be in with a chance of placing and that is a good confidence builder and also gives a personal benchmark to better for next time.

I just hope the top guns come a long and comment on the entries so we can all improve for next time.

I like the idea of a comp prize only miniature, I see Black Scorpion have just run a comp with one, Gold Silver and Bronze for top 3 placings, like winning a trophy.

TIME - dont we all need more of that, an extra couple of hours a day for sleep would be good.

Keep up the good work Nathan and thanks for running these comps.

demonherald
11-03-2007, 08:30 PM
There is a way everyone, Tyrth brought it to my attention and I duly gave him some respect points!

although it doesnt physically say "you have uploaded a pic" all you do is check your gallery. If it states you have one more pic than you can actually see then guess what, bish bash bosh, your in!
it's not the is it in it's the how does it look element....know what I mean???

eastman
11-03-2007, 10:20 PM
I like the idea of a comp prize only miniature, I see Black Scorpion have just run a comp with one, Gold Silver and Bronze for top 3 placings, like winning a trophy.


CharCon did that with a Kev White trophy sculpt for their onsite and online painting competitions. I like that idea, and would certainly like to see more of it.

Maybe a special Wyrd mini for the best Wyrd entry in the competitions?


@ Demonherald - was the Warrior Priest in the CharCon online yours? (Ashlee was mine)

demonherald
11-03-2007, 10:29 PM
Yeah that was me chief.....yay us and Matty......

Wren
11-04-2007, 02:23 AM
Rhonda, a good suggestion, just one that doesn't fit for us at the moment. Heck, atleast I'm not a complete dillwood and only require Wyrd mini's in the contests.

Just want to note that I don't personally have any problem with the anonymity system (other than occasionally being tortured by suspense ;->), and there are a lot of things I like about it. I only mentioned it as a way to potentially increase participation, as I know that the only reason I was able to enter a couple of the SPC contests and that I'm able to go in Golden Toadstool regularly is being allowed to submit stuff that has to be newish but not completely unseen.

I think contest-only minis could be very fun and cool! I don't think changing the anonymity is the only way to promote the contest, I mentioned another one or two things in a different thread. I am sorry to hear that one of the reasons the range of prize support has lessened is companies not living up to their promises. Even if it's just because of being a little disorganized or over-stretched that's poor repayment for the advertising and good will earned by the sponsership.

Jubilee
11-04-2007, 12:12 PM
I wanted to do an entry this year but it just didn't come together, between work, Iron Painter, & other interests. Maybe next time..

Entries look fun and interesting, though.

/ali

Frustrated Father
11-04-2007, 12:41 PM
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO MORE WORK AND EDITING THAN NEEDED PLEASE READ THE RULES WHEN VOTING AND SELECT THREE (3) ENTRIES PER POLL!

IF YOU DON'T, YOU INVALIDATE YOUR WHOLE VOTES AND I HAVE TO REMOVE IT AND SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE DONE SO ALREADY!

demonherald
11-04-2007, 01:00 PM
(covers ears) okey dokey

callumrice
11-04-2007, 05:26 PM
Christ Nath, calm down...

I get the impression the big man is pissed...

lauth81
11-06-2007, 06:08 AM
Finished! Voted on every category and posted a comment on every entry.

Good luck everyone!

supervike
11-06-2007, 07:27 AM
Ditto! Fun stuff peoples!

Ritual
11-06-2007, 07:36 AM
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO MORE WORK AND EDITING THAN NEEDED PLEASE READ THE RULES WHEN VOTING AND SELECT THREE (3) ENTRIES PER POLL!

IF YOU DON'T, YOU INVALIDATE YOUR WHOLE VOTES AND I HAVE TO REMOVE IT AND SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE DONE SO ALREADY!

Three is the number to which you should count, and the number you
should count to, is three. Neither two, nor four, but three. First you
shall count to one. Immediately following one, the number two should be
counted to. Continuing past two to three, you reach the number to count
to. You are not to count past three, to four, but stop at three.

supervike
11-06-2007, 07:51 AM
I like the contest the way it is run as well. I think the anonymous aspect is very enjoyable...It is more valuable for the contestant, since the comments are usually slightly more honest. It is such a kick to see who painted what (although I sort of ruined it for myself, as I saw the pics before they were 'moderated' so I have an idea on who did what)

It seems the IP did kind of bump uglies here with the Wyrd contest, and that is unfortunate. The IP is such a longer competition, it is hard not to overlap, but I think better time slot management on my behalf would help that. I need to coordinate this a bit better with Nathan.

Both contests are different creatures, and I believe they end up complimenting each other quite nicely. The hush hush, keep your entry secret of the Wyrd Contest pairs up nicely with the over the top bravado that is expected in the IP. The Wyrd Contest is all about the voters, where the IP relies on a paneled jury of miscreants...er I mean judges. The Yin and the Yang of painting contests!!

I definately think we have the painters to fill both of them up, but its imperative that we juggle the time frames so they work off of each other, instead of working against each other.

matty1001
11-06-2007, 07:53 AM
...keeps padding out their own entries then one day im really going to think that painting a mini with a cricket bat IS the way to go.

What...like Hasslefree's not Shawn of the dead ;)

Hinton
11-06-2007, 09:42 AM
As far as the IP and contests overlapping, it might be possible to keep them apart.

Right now, Wyrd has 3 "major" contests: Femme Fatale, Total Testosterone and Rotten Harvest. What if the Iron Painter became an annual contest? It might work a bit better if it always took place during a specific time period instead of trying to schedule it around other things. The start of the current round had to be held off because of GenCon and other painting events and that made it overlap into the Rotten Harvest (which may partially account for the reduced number of entries).

For example:

Femme Fatale: January 1 - Febuary 15
Iron Painter: March 1 - May 31
Total Testosterone: June 1 - July 15
Rotten Harvest: September 15 - October 31

Just a thought.

Thryth
11-06-2007, 10:10 AM
Hi,

I think Hinton has got the right idea, but maybe a little more like:

Femme Fatale: January 1 - Febuary 15
Iron Painter: Friday after Febuary 15 - whenever
Total Testosterone: June 1 - July 15
Iron Painter: Friday after July 15 - whenever
Rotten Harvest: September 15 - October 31
Iron Painter: Friday after October 31 - whenever (okay, this one is cutting it close to the holidays)

That should keep us in contest fairly constantly :) (and plenty of Iron Painter to go around!)

Of course this is just a suggestion :). It is incredible nice of FF and Supervike to put the time and effort that they do into these events, I don't want to suggest additional work for anyone.

Thanks for running the contests guys!

green stuff
11-06-2007, 10:52 AM
Right now, Wyrd has 3 "major" contests: Femme Fatale, Total Testosterone and Rotten Harvest.
Let's not forget the fourth Wyrd painting contest : "Something Wyrd" ;).

Hinton
11-06-2007, 10:58 AM
Femme Fatale: January 1 - Febuary 15
Iron Painter: Friday after Febuary 15 - whenever
Total Testosterone: June 1 - July 15
Iron Painter: Friday after July 15 - whenever
Rotten Harvest: September 15 - October 31
Iron Painter: Friday after October 31 - whenever (okay, this one is cutting it close to the holidays)


The reason that I suggested having only one IP is because of the potential conflicts with other things. In the summer there are conventions (GenCon probably being the biggest here in the States; not sure what all there is overseas) and, as you mentioned, the holidays that occur in the fall/winter. In addition, having an IP after October means that it could run over into the FF.

One way to ensure that things don't overlap is to limit the amount of entrants so that the IP is four rounds (approximately 2 months), although I don't think anyone would be too keen on that idea.

Again, just tossing some ideas around to try and help smooth things out so that all of the contests here at Wyrd have plenty of entrants and are still fun.

Frustrated Father
11-06-2007, 12:04 PM
Three is the number to which you should count, and the number you
should count to, is three. Neither two, nor four, but three. First you
shall count to one. Immediately following one, the number two should be
counted to. Continuing past two to three, you reach the number to count
to. You are not to count past three, to four, but stop at three.

I am so stealing that for the next contest.

Frustrated Father
11-06-2007, 12:13 PM
Meh, no worries. We discussed it early on about it overlapping and I believe my exact words were "don't worry about it!'.

Still not, though I did find that it cut into both of them as I received plenty of e-mails from folks wanting to enter both but only being able to do one. I for one would like to see about running the Iron Painter atleast twice a year as frankly, I look forward to them something fierce as, yes they are a lot of work, but a serious amount of fun as well and I think it really brings out the best (and worst!) in the painters. This current round in the OSL is a prime example.

That being said, its Jim's baby and I'm not going to step all over it and more to the point, the man puts in an inordinate amount of time and his own money into the event. We'll discuss it and find out what we can do, but ultimately it'll be down to Jim to decide the timelines on these. I might not kick the 'baby' but I'll certainly kick Jim if he thinks of not doing it enough for my liking.

:D

The Wyrd Painting Contests have needed a bit of a mix here lately and we're working on that behind the scenes right now and hope to have something rather interesting by the next ones. Right now the three main ones are FF, TT and RH. I'm not sure if we'll bring back 'Something Wyrd' this year or not, but we'll see about it.

Wren
11-06-2007, 12:25 PM
I think it really brings out the best (and worst!) in the painters.

The best being what comes out of our brushes, and the worst being what comes out of our mouths? ;->

Frustrated Father
11-06-2007, 01:44 PM
Pretty much, but in a fun way, mostly.

Actually I think this rounds work of OSL is the best I've ever seen and the fact that many of you took the time to do seriously over the top diorama's or stylistic pieces really points out how many of ya'll like a challenge and more to the point, push your abilities. Last years OSL was weak, very weak, compared to this time around and several of ya'll were in that then so it goes to show how well some of ya'll have pushed yourselves.

Ritual
11-06-2007, 02:13 PM
I am so stealing that for the next contest.
I did a quick search for the proper film quote and I don't think this is it exactly. All 'you' should be 'thou' and there's something about not counting to two unless you proceed to three as well...

Wren
11-06-2007, 02:25 PM
Last year I think the topic was actually magical effects and most of us just went the OSL route (a wussing out you judges pointed out at the time ;->). OSL was a topic in the very first IP IIRC.

I think I absolutely have done some of my best and/or most interesting stuff for IP rounds. I'm trying to figure out how to get those kinds of ideas flowing for when I work on contests that are more open-ended like Femme Fatale or ones that just group entries by size or manufacturer. I'm often boring when left purely to my own devices...

Hinton
11-06-2007, 02:31 PM
I did a quick search for the proper film quote and I don't think this is it exactly. All 'you' should be 'thou' and there's something about not counting to two unless you proceed to three as well...

The lines are:

"And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."

demonherald
11-06-2007, 03:13 PM
I'm often boring when left purely to my own devices...

Yeah but you carry it out with such style.....
The current comp schedule on here is good.. IP will always clash due to the length of time it covers but the random element it throws up is always gonna be a challenge.And it can only get better.
The other 3 have a good spread of themes that will atrract a wider audience not necessarily at the same time but over a year and should help generate more people visiting...
Something Wyrd works well in the other comps as part of them but it may also be a good measure of how the minis are being received to run a stand alone comp for Wyrd minis and give them the proper attention.

stubbdog
11-06-2007, 04:11 PM
Well, athough this particular IP is my first Wyrd contest to participate in, I have lurked around for quite a while. So, I hope that it is ok if I give an opinion...

For me. I personally like the idea of themed painting contests and I wish a few other contests would move in that direction instead of being so open ended.. But, one of the main reasons that I am participating in the IP is that the theme is changing an exciting, not to mention the crunchtime anxiety producing need to paint much faster than I ever normally would.

With that, I have to admit, the repeated theme of FF, RH, TT although great when they first came out... are just kinda, eh.. to me now.

Wren
11-06-2007, 05:01 PM
Yeah but you carry it out with such style.....


*grin* Thanks demonherald, that's sweet of you to say.

callumrice
11-07-2007, 04:12 AM
Last year I think the topic was actually magical effects and most of us just went the OSL route (a wussing out you judges pointed out at the time ;->). OSL was a topic in the very first IP IIRC.

I think I absolutely have done some of my best and/or most interesting stuff for IP rounds. I'm trying to figure out how to get those kinds of ideas flowing for when I work on contests that are more open-ended like Femme Fatale or ones that just group entries by size or manufacturer. I'm often boring when left purely to my own devices...


Wren, heres an idea, why dont you just write 30 themes down on pieces of cards, OSL, just 2 colours, NMM etc and everytime you fancy entering a comp, whip out one of the cards and see which way you have to paint. That way you can concentrate on getting the theme ingredient in rather than perfecting every spec of paint. It would maybe help?

Wren
11-07-2007, 11:04 AM
I think I will do something like that callum, thanks! I'll have to comb through some of the old IP threads where people were brainstorming themes. I might even do two 'hats' of ideas, as you've reminded me of something I saw long, long ago. It was a tool for 2D artists to practice, and had two spinners you could put together. You spun the arrow on each to two different subjects that you had to incorporate into the same sketch. So I could have one hat of themes and techniques, and then another of general mini categories like size, manufacturer and general subject (male, female, dead, warrior, etc.).

callumrice
11-07-2007, 02:07 PM
No probs.

Good idea with what mini you choose to paint too!

Jabberwocky
11-07-2007, 03:05 PM
I'll join the chorus of keeping things as they are. I have long been a fanboy of the Wyrd contests and although I have not been able to participate in every one, I have voted and commented on every entry in every theme contest. I think the anonymity complements the contest and doesn't detract from it. There is bar-none no other contest on the web that offers the feedback on a mini that you can get here! This year's turnout, as others have mentioned, is due to an unusual number of other contests running simultaneously. I can think of six off the top of my head in October. The other thing to take into consideration; the "lower" turn out for this contest is 34. I would hazard a guess that this doubles or triples the number of entries in any other online contest for the month. Wyrd has the happy misfortune of having an incredibly high bar being set early on with regards to quality and quantity of entries.

wiccanpony
11-07-2007, 03:51 PM
I personally like the anonymity system.......but I will admit, I’m starting to recognize certain painters style.

demonherald
11-07-2007, 04:15 PM
Hey Wren that is a cool idea.. I go through phases with my work and generally work around a theme..mainly a technique to work with..
This round of IP was bad timing for me as I have just painted so many OSL themes and ideas that when it came to doing It I was pretty much OSL'ed out and just couldn't bring myself to do it..the good thing about it though was getting a mini painted that has been sitting staring at me for over a year.

Last year I had in mind what I wanted to do for GDUK and I basically practised each element of it seperately until I was happy enough with the techniques to combine them for my entry..It's a real interesting exercise.. It's also interesting taking the same mini and doing several different themes.. something I'm doing at the moment.. No conversion work just different themes of painting..

might pinch the hat thing though and add model from the box to the category..(I have one box out of about 50 boxes of unpainted stuff that has my favourite interesting but never had a reason to paint models in it)

Wren
11-07-2007, 04:37 PM
Yeah, I keep a small box with my really cool I should paint these soon models in it, but then it gets full and I have to cycle some of them back to the big boxes. ;-> My vampiress had been in that box at one time, though, so I guess the minis in there aren't completely doomed to never be painted.

Thryth
11-07-2007, 04:56 PM
@Wren I keep a list on the computer. It doesn't have the advantage of getting full, though :( I agree with you about the themes for Iron Painter. I think that I have done some of my best work in Iron Painter.

Coneman
11-08-2007, 08:10 AM
Nathan can you let me know if my votes went through in the HH comp, they appeared to when I put them in but the polls are still open to me like I have not voted.
In the last comps once I had voted the polls were gone and it said I had already submitted votes, or something along them lines.
Cheers

Frustrated Father
11-08-2007, 11:19 AM
Huh ... nope, says you haven't voted though a butt load of others have.

Try voting again and lets see ifif that takes care of it. In the mean time, I'm going to go rebuild the user database and recrunch the back end and see if a glitch got in. From time to times something just goes wonkey and this seems like one of them.

Sorry about that amigo.

Frustrated Father
11-11-2007, 11:50 AM
Polls are closed or closing as I type this. I've gone through and done an inordinate amount of editing on the numbers as a great many didn't follow the rules.

In one case that took someone with a ten vote lead on everyone else (and well deserved I might add) and brought them down to a virtual tie, though since then a couple of votes came in. Not sure if they won or not though as I haven't checked. In several other cases it made what was cut and dry wins into ties across the board.

Anyhow, an hour and a half later I'm done with editing the polls, and looking at the clock the last one just closed so I'll make one last run through on it, see what we've got that might have slipped in the last few and we'll have names and announcements made for everyone within the next 24 hours.

supervike
11-11-2007, 12:46 PM
Who painted what is now up in the galleries!

Frustrated Father
11-11-2007, 01:25 PM
Thank you faithful flunky!

supervike
11-11-2007, 01:34 PM
whoo hoo!! I'm faithful!

demonherald
11-11-2007, 01:43 PM
wahey I can reply to comments and post better pics.....well done all