Iron Painter 4 RD 2 MATCHUP AND THEME

[supervike]

Whoa!

What a couple of weeks! But here we go. The winners have been announced, but can they stay winners for this next round?


Right to it then....

Here are the Matchups for ROUND 2 of Season FOUR: (matchups and theme are randomly chosen using random.org)

Demonherald vs. Stubbdog
Flit vs. R2J1
Thryth vs. EldinTux
Youngwolf7 vs. alizardincrimson
skrivanek vs. Jack
Bexley vs. LavronYor
Kenan vs. Slidedog
Wren vs. Jed
Dragonforge vs. Uberdark
Jubilee vs Skya
Duende vs Brushmistress
Morf vs. LordFishBane
Beezlebrush vs Darklord

Now the theme. I suppose it was bound to happen, where we'd get a 'repeat' theme from a previous session....BUT its a dandy anyhow!

OSL

Object Source Lighting

We had this theme way back, in what I think was the 2nd round of Season one. You can see a few examples if you search the Gallery for that 1st season. Tis funny because I just mentioned this theme in a little write up in my hobbyblog (see link below in my sig)

Anyhow, if you aren't sure what OSL is, here it is in a nutshell. Painting with heavy emphasis on shadow and light, making it seem like a 'fake' light source is really lighting things up. Check out ShawnRL on Cool Mini Or not, he seems to be very versed in it.

How you interepret the theme is obviously up to you! BUT, its all about pleasing our judges, and as you see from round 1, they can be a grouchy bunch of fellers....

The deadline is SUNDAY NOVEMBER 4th at 6PM Central Time (my time) sharp.
I will cut off submissions at that point, or as close to it as possible (after 6). IF your submission is not in by then, you are ruled DNF.

Can Demonherald maintain his dominance?

Will Jack win by more than .5 points, can he score in the upper 30's?

I think Skya and Jubilee have met before on the IP battlefield...Will Jubilee be truimphant over the past champion?

In another matchup of Iron Women, Will Duende and Brushmistress end up in a mud wrestling tournament? Will the men be too distracted to paint?

Will Uberdark be able to stop Dragonforge, or will that new baby be too much of a distraction?

Can new coming Bexely stop wily veteran of the IP LavrontononYor?

All this and more will be answered in the Iron Painter 4 Round two, which begins....


NOW!

[Darklord]

hmm interesting

[r2-j1]

I was in the first IP when this was the theme, and it was the first time I used OSL.

I am in this IP, and it will be the second time I use OSl :P

Doesn't matter though, I crushed it then and I'll crush it again.

[Dragonforge]

Dragonforge vs. Uberdark
Baw Ah Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Ubie.. Buddy.. do you wan't my address now.. save you the humiliation of Defeat.... or do we do this!

Sorry I had to be a shit for just a few moments... Oh man this could not of been better ..

Heheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheeehehehe



Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehheheheheheh eheheheheh


:ciao: little buddy..it was nice knowing you!!!!!!!

[Dragonforge]

Umm sorry about that...



Umm ok no Im not!!!!

:bandit:

[YoungWolf7]

Wicked monkeys. I've got the perfect piece. :D

Best of luck to alizardincrimson.

I have a feeling you might need it. ;)

[Ritual]

Misspelling LavronYor never gets old, does it Jim? :laugh:

[demonherald]

hmmmm gonna have to roll the sleeves up for this one have put OSL away for a short while but ready to really light something up....Stubbdog good luck..I think you might need it....:vb_devil:

[Dragonforge]

hmmmm gonna have to roll the sleeves up for this one have put OSL away for a short while but ready to really light something up....Stubbdog good luck..I think you might need it....:vb_devil:

Go Rob Go!!!!!

[Beelzebrush]

...or beelzebrush lol
it's be (as in bee) el (as in hell) ze (as in zorro) and the brush bit is usually right lol :D

Cool theme... a stroll in the park, shall I send you my address now Darklord :D

[Lordfishbane]

HMMMM, interesting. No clue on a fig choice. Off to the internet!! up, up, and awayyyyyyyyyyyy.

[Brushmistress]

So is there a conspiracy to have all the women eliminate each other? Just another sad attempt to crown a male IP champion. Oh-and I prefer the "Gravy Bowl" wrestling match if that's good for you Duende!

[supervike]

Misspelling LavronYor never gets old, does it Jim? :laugh:

Well, not to me it doesnt!!

I'm sure ol Lav' may have a different opinion!!

[Thryth]

Doh!

OSL, my nemesis! Once again Iron Painter makes me push my painting limits! :)

[Duende]

So is there a conspiracy to have all the women eliminate each other? Just another sad attempt to crown a male IP champion. Oh-and I prefer the "Gravy Bowl" wrestling match if that's good for you Duende!

I like chocolate pudding wrestling myself. And I think I have a better chance beating you at that than doing OSL, especially since I've never, ever attempted it before.

So let's put down the brushes and pick up the body oil. I know I can pin you in 15 seconds. So who's going to ref?

:D

[Frustrated Father]

Oooh ... oooh .. me!

Can we have a recreation of the movie Stripes?

[Bexley]

Mini selection is the easy part. I already bought a figure some time ago specifically to paint with OSL. The hard part is... OSL, as said mini was going to be my first attempt at it.

A question, though- I've heard it debated as to whether or not it is OSL if the light source is "off camera" instead of actually represented on the model. What's the consensus here on that?

[Bexley]

FF- does that mean you're going to chase us around with an egg beater? Not cool. ;P

[Beelzebrush]

Mini selection is the easy part. I already bought a figure some time ago specifically to paint with OSL. The hard part is... OSL, as said mini was going to be my first attempt at it.

A question, though- I've heard it debated as to whether or not it is OSL if the light source is "off camera" instead of actually represented on the model. What's the consensus here on that?

I would say either... however, unless it's obvious where or why the light source is 'off camera', I'd probably be inclined to stick with something 'on camera' or as part of the mini.

[Darklord]

...or beelzebrush lol
it's be (as in bee) el (as in hell) ze (as in zorro) and the brush bit is usually right lol :D

Cool theme... a stroll in the park, shall I send you my address now Darklord :D

sure send me your address basilbrush, i can send you a copy of GW's how to paint miniatures book.

just remember if we were matched up last round you would be a gonner now!

[Frustrated Father]

In what manner - such as standing out in the desert and looking up at the sun and everything towards the sun is bright and or shining where as behind the individual it is in shadow and dark?

I think most folks will go with an object within the model or the diorama to represent the light so as to be obvious about it, but I'm sure there are some of ya'll that might go another route that I would never have thought of and do a great job as well. Vince pretty much was the king of twisting stuff back in some of the old IP's and even.... I think it was matty .. maybe orky, that did the Paint it Black which was also a twist.

If you want to go safe, I would say incorporate it. If you just have an idea that you've got to put together and you think it'll come across to everyone, judges in particular, I say run with it.

[Hinton]

I wanna do OSL...:sad2:

As consolation, I should be the ref of the wrestling match.

[Dragonforge]

So is there a conspiracy to have all the women eliminate each other? Just another sad attempt to crown a male IP champion. Oh-and I prefer the "Gravy Bowl" wrestling match if that's good for you Duende!

Oh I could be soo into watching this.. Ive even got a fist full of ones.. :vb_devil:

[Sculpta the squig]

Can I still paint a mini fot this round even though I'm not technically a participant any more?

Squig

[Beelzebrush]

sure send me your address basilbrush, i can send you a copy of GW's how to paint miniatures book.

just remember if we were matched up last round you would be a gonner now!

I was only just in first gear last round. It's time to get slightly less apathetic and give it a bit more effort this round :D

Is the GW book softer than Andrex, or indeed the lovely labrador puppy? If, so, count me in :D

[Brushmistress]

I like chocolate pudding wrestling myself. And I think I have a better chance beating you at that than doing OSL, especially since I've never, ever attempted it before.

So let's put down the brushes and pick up the body oil. I know I can pin you in 15 seconds. So who's going to ref?

:D

:parental:Strawberry scented body oil (goes with the chocolate)! And 15 seconds-hah-my ground game is solid...I'm betting I can catch you in an arm bar.

[Frustrated Father]

I think anyone that wants to participate, whether officially or just for the fun of it, is more than welcome.

[Frustrated Father]

Oh, and I was talking about painting but seeing as my post came right after Brushmistress's I think it would apply for the wrasslin' as well.

[stubbdog]

So, looking at the math, there is an average of 5.38 points difference in the matchups. With 7 matches having a difference of 5 or more between the round 1 scores. Of course anyone paired up against DH is gonna have a large difference between them.

Hopefully, I will find the perfect piece that the judges will give me those perfec scores this round.

One thing for sure, its an easier theme to get correct.

Do I respect my opponent? Of course. Am I intimidated? No.

Just enjoy the challenge ahead of me.

Good show to everyone.

[Dragonforge]

:parental:Strawberry scented body oil (goes with the chocolate)! And 15 seconds-hah-my ground game is solid...I'm betting I can catch you in an arm bar.

Oh my..:tongue2:

[r2-j1]

:parental:Strawberry scented body oil (goes with the chocolate)! And 15 seconds-hah-my ground game is solid...I'm betting I can catch you in an arm bar.


How are you going to hold on to an arm bar, or any submission for that matter when your covered in strawberry body oil?:tongue2:

[Hinton]

Well, even though I'm not in the IP anymore, I do have a mini that's been sitting on my desk for a few months now that would be perfect for OSL. Think I'll give it a go and see how it turns out.

[Brushmistress]

How are you going to hold on to an arm bar, or any submission for that matter when your covered in strawberry body oil?:tongue2:

Fingernails, very long fingernails...:vb_devil:

[Bexley]

Maybe I will try to integrate both methods, then. the figure I had in mind was to be lit by a very strong off-camera source. Maybe to be safe I'll add some smaller glowing gems or something.

[r2-j1]

Fingernails, very long fingernails...:vb_devil:

Touche....., and owwwwwww

[Dragonforge]

I think an off piece light source will get confusing as how do you determine how big it is to cast a light source..and how do you convince your audience that this is happening. Tough to pull off in my book.

[Dragonforge]

Fingernails, very long fingernails...:vb_devil:

Ohhh please say they are red.. and not because of blood :P

[Frustrated Father]

Okay, points for anyone that does two mud/jello/pudding wrestling women and somehow manages to work in OSL into it.

[YoungWolf7]

Okay, points for anyone that does two mud/jello/pudding wrestling women and somehow manages to work in OSL into it.

That sounds like a Hasslefree mini set to me... :D

[jed]

Wren vs. Jed

so it's a german soldier vs. snowman-zombie...

that's gonna be interesting :D

[Uberdark]

yeah ummm i think i may have to just succumb now.... i have no skill with osl whatsoever. i really in truly mean this...i suck at it majorly. any other thing and i would have been fine. no i will not quit actually but will try my best.

i will not be wishing any luck to my opponent, cause i will need it all.

later on guys

[Dragonforge]

yeah ummm i think i may have to just succumb now.... i have no skill with osl whatsoever. i really in truly mean this...i suck at it majorly. any other thing and i would have been fine. no i will not quit actually but will try my best.

i will not be wishing any luck to my opponent, cause i will need it all.

later on guys

Sssssssssssshhhhhhhh... Do you hear it..

Its the sound of life being sucked out the room Ubies in.. :imsorry:

Well actually Im not but I promise I wont smack talk after today.. Ill be to busy creatin a masterpiece...

[Bexley]

Well, the pose and composition of the figure would make it clear what and where the light source is. And the source (not the sun) isn't something you could really represent well.

I'll probably poke around and see if I come up with a better idea, and use this as a backup plan, should nothing better strike me in the next day or so.

[Morf]

Not overly thrilled about the subject maybe because I am dead tired and there is nothing I can think of that is more creative than just OSL.

[Darklord]

iron painters dont get tired morf!!

[Brushmistress]

iron painters dont get tired morf!!

We do however get hung over. I know I am, anybody else?

[callumrice]

Man! Can I not just post my round 1 entry?

oh, thats right, im out...

[demonherald]

Well, the pose and composition of the figure would make it clear what and where the light source is. And the source (not the sun) isn't something you could really represent well.

I'll probably poke around and see if I come up with a better idea, and use this as a backup plan, should nothing better strike me in the next day or so.

well I'll throw a little Light on it for ya..."pun intended"
OSL is named two different things Object Source Lighting or some call it Origin Source Lighting...

using an overall light theme or mood such as Sun Direction is generally referred to as Zenithal lighting or other such terms....

Generally the Basic Principal with OSL is that there is something ...anything.... creating light...candles street lights fire spells gun flare explosions .a naked glowing ghost...anything ......think about the colour of the light and the effect it would have on the colours under it or around it.....and the best results are achieved when the model is darkly lit for the most part and the light source can just pop...

So there is some insight..hope this helps ......Oh and without wanting to sound like I'm kissing a judges ass Eric J's Ramos is one of the finest examples out there.....

this should be a fun round as there so many ways to interpret it I already have about 9 ideas ..the problem is now narrowing down and focussing....

[Bexley]

We do however get hung over. I know I am, anybody else?
Not currently, but I was nursing a nasty one while I painted my entry. Couldn't be avoided; the Twin Cities' Best Bartender (ret.) staged a reunion of the regulars from his former place of employment the evening before.

[EricJ]

it's ok, you can kiss some ass, totally within the rules :D

Ramos linky (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/EricJ/Painting/RamosPost.jpg)

[Bexley]

Well, while this isn't the idea I'm considering, it bears a resemblance to the many many versions out there of Gandalf being lit by the fire from the Balrog. Most people pick up on the source of the light without having to see the Balrog.

Like I said, though- this'd be my backup plan, in case I don't come up with an idea that appeals to me more.

[Brushmistress]

......Oh and without wanting to sound like I'm kissing a judges ass Eric J's Ramos is one of the finest examples out there.....


That model has always blown my mind...absolutely amazing!

[demonherald]

hmmmmm so 3 possible entries 1 relying on UK postal system as just ordered...those that don't know UK post Sucks the hairy dangly bits of a wet simian....
he biggest peril is ahead...photographing OSL is a Bitch...

oh and Eric cheers for popping the link on.....reminding us all once again we are mere mortals....(that time it was kissing ass)

[r2-j1]

he biggest peril is ahead...photographing OSL is a Bitch...


Truth!
Painting it is easy, getting good photos of it is hard.

[slidedog]

Amen to that...

[Jubilee]

Gaaah. OSL. Skya. *sob*

[Skya]

Gaaah. OSL. Skya. *sob*

We've both done this one before and as I recall we both needed to kick it up a couple notches.

I've definately got a few ideas in my head. Time to figure out which of them are realistic in a two week time period. Heh, and yeah which ones will actually be photographable. Better make sure to leave myself the whole weekend to bang my head against my camera.

[EricJ]

I totally totally agree about the photography of OSL. I can't tell you HOW many bad photos I have of that Ramos. The reflection detail made it even harder still...I think that release probably got delayed a week until I got a shot which I thought actually worked with all the elements.

And I can't wait to see the Jubilee/Skya matchup, that's going to be a good one!

[stubbdog]

Well, went to lunch with a friend to Macaroni Grill. For anyone that hasnt been to the MG, its a restaraunt that covers their tables in paper and gives out crayons for you to doodle while you wait for your food.

Anways, I came up with 3 different ideas that I like. Unfortaunately, all three of them are 3 month projects, not two weekers. But, then again, so was the thing I tried to do in round 1. So, now to step two, finding miniatures that would work for any of these and then pick the one that I can find the available minis for first.

Eric, you think you could post a picture n the forums of how your ending photo set up looked like that ended up working for you on taking those pictures?

[EldinTux]

OSL - not really my forte (but then what is?). But I'll give Thryth a run for his money. Bring it on. Got an idea, just a small one but it might just work.

[Wren]

Wren vs. Jed

so it's a german soldier vs. snowman-zombie...

that's gonna be interesting :D

I was thinking something similar - looks like we're fairly well-matched, so this should be interesting!

Still in the thinking stages. Trying to decide between being in the season or wracking my feeble brain to try to go outside the box. This is one of those topics where the problem is more too many ideas than too few.

[Thryth]

OSL - not really my forte (but then what is?). But I'll give Thryth a run for his money. Bring it on. Got an idea, just a small one but it might just work.

What a coincidence! It's not mine either (see my feeble attempts in previous Wyrd contests)! I'm sure that we should have an interesting match. :)

[demonherald]

Still in the thinking stages. Trying to decide between being in the season or wracking my feeble brain to try to go outside the box. This is one of those topics where the problem is more too many ideas than too few.

I hear ya there.....lots of possibilities but how to make it special.....

[Wren]

Yep, that's it exactly!

[kenan]

:banghead::laugh::laugh::cheers::laugh:

This hard for me.but l will do my best.

[Ritual]

Well, the pose and composition of the figure would make it clear what and where the light source is. And the source (not the sun) isn't something you could really represent well.

I'll probably poke around and see if I come up with a better idea, and use this as a backup plan, should nothing better strike me in the next day or so.

This should be OK, I think, if you make the scene readable. The problem with off-the-set light sources usually is that it's not evident what's going on, but if you think you can make it clear and create a cool effect I see no problem. Of course, you will lose the chance to make a cool effect of the light source itself, but if you think the mini and the play of light on it will be cool enough, I say go for it! Try to convince me! :D (...and the other judges too, of course)

[Morf]

inspiring, isn't it?
http://coolminiornot.com/172047

I already now what I want to do, I went to my folks house to dig the attic for bitz!

[LavronYor]

Don't worry Bexley, I only paint a little better than my competition and my photography skills are only average. The problem with too many or too complex an idea, is that it rarely translates from the minds eye to the mini and even more rarely from the mini to the camera.
I was very happy with my Borka, but looking at the photos, it only looks mediocre. Still, knock yourself out, literally, and when you wake up, you will look forward to IP5.

The enemy of good is perfect.

And Richusual, it never gets tiring to me when supervickey does that......

[Uberdark]

already have my idea and have started......the paranoia hath started and i will definitely not be posting any wips on this one. *oooh....wait what was that* *nervous tick begins*

[Ritual]

You all sounded so cocky in the first round! Listen to you now... :rolleyes:

[EldinTux]

Hey OSL no problem, got the mini picked out, have even made a start. Watch yea mortals & quake....


Is that any better?

[Sculpta the squig]

You all sounded so cocky in the first round! Listen to you now... :rolleyes:


Heh, I didn't.:vb_tongue

Squig

[slidedog]

OSL is right in my sweet spot, watch out Kenan, I'll be bringin' the heat! Though I leave on vacation on the 30th so I am going to be pushing to finish this one up before I leave. Don't want the DNF label... ...not there there is anything wrong with that...:vb_devil:

[Bexley]

This should be OK, I think, if you make the scene readable. The problem with off-the-set light sources usually is that it's not evident what's going on, but if you think you can make it clear and create a cool effect I see no problem. Of course, you will lose the chance to make a cool effect of the light source itself, but if you think the mini and the play of light on it will be cool enough, I say go for it! Try to convince me! :D (...and the other judges too, of course)

Well, I've decided not to do it. It would work and look good, but once I got home and took a good look at the figure, I realized that it is way too complex for me to pull it off in two weeks.

[Ritual]

Well, maybe you could do it some other time then, without a deadline stressing you out. It would be a shame to let a good idea go to waste...

[supervike]

Heya Bexley...where is Spring Lake Park?

I'm in Iowa, about 100 miles from the minnesota border, and have to go up to the Twin Cities on a semi regular basis....

[Dragonforge]

You all sounded so cocky in the first round! Listen to you now... :rolleyes:

I was cocky yesterday.. Beating on Ubers inability to conceive an original thought isn't that much fun after a while.. its like kicking a 3 legged dog trying to lift its leg to pee..

Plus I figured Id take the weekend off and enjoy the nice fall weather.. 76F on the 20th of October is nice :) All I need is a couple of days anyhow ;)

[jed]

I was thinking something similar - looks like we're fairly well-matched, so this should be interesting!

Still in the thinking stages. Trying to decide between being in the season or wracking my feeble brain to try to go outside the box. This is one of those topics where the problem is more too many ideas than too few.

I know what you mean! already have 2 ideas, can't decide which one I should go for...

oh, and by the way, it's gonna be my first attempt to do do OSL. it's good to know I'm not the only one tho :)

[Bexley]

Heya Bexley...where is Spring Lake Park?

I'm in Iowa, about 100 miles from the minnesota border, and have to go up to the Twin Cities on a semi regular basis....

Iowa? You poor, silly bastard. :P

It's about 15 minutes north of Minneapolis.

[Bexley]

Well, maybe you could do it some other time then, without a deadline stressing you out. It would be a shame to let a good idea go to waste...

Oh, I'm sure I will. I bought the figure a few months ago specifically for the OSL idea, I just hadn't gotten around to doing it yet. It popped into my head right away when the theme was announced, since that was my plan for it anyway. it's just way too complex (it actually involves four miniatures, all of which would be lit by the same source) to do in two weeks.

[supervike]

Iowa? You poor, silly bastard. :P

It's about 15 minutes north of Minneapolis.

I end up working in White Bear Lake more than in MPLS....

Are there gaming stores I 'need to visit' while up there?

[Bexley]

Okay, WBL is maybe 10-15 miles east of Spring Lake Park.

As for stores... there's pretty much The Source, which is in St. Paul. Well, technically, Falcon Heights. I would assume if you come up to WBL from Iowa, you're probably familliar with 35E. If that's the case, it'd be about ten to fifteen minutes out of your way. Incredibly large supply of miniatures, even not including Games Workshop. Lots of imports. It's my store of choice, even before it (recently) became the only really big game store in the cities. Large selection, five minutes from where I work, and I get a nice industry discount, too. If you want more detailed directions, let me know.

[supervike]

Ah....I've heard of it, but haven't tried that one!

I was just randomly checking out stores the last time I was there (using the Yellow pages as a guide)....Wasn't having much luck at all.

The Source sounds like it will be worth the trip!

Good info, thanks much!!

[Bexley]

Yeah, most of them aren't much. There's another good sized one up in Anoka, but that's pretty far out of the way. The only other big one in the cities proper closed up a month ago.

[Uberdark]

so how are things going for everyone? i already had to start over. spray paint went all wonky

[demonherald]

so how are things going for everyone? i already had to start over. spray paint went all wonky
Damn Spray...Mt Nemesis it's like there's a monkey in the can that says.."Ha he's been working hard on this one it's important and he ain't got much time"....."watch his face as I shed in the Can ....Ha"...grrr damn Can monkeys.....

as for progress well got two possibles that I'm building at the moment and another coming in the post gonna see which comes out better (or get's finished) and go from there...

[Dragonforge]

Yeah, most of them aren't much. There's another good sized one up in Anoka, but that's pretty far out of the way. The only other big one in the cities proper closed up a month ago.

What shop is in Anoka? where is it..I go home to Coon rapids a couple times a year and wouldn't mind checking it out. So the shop that closed, was it Phoenix games that closed its doors? That shop location was a virtual institution almost.. with its history dating back to the old Tin Soldier days. I bought my first gaming figures in the Tin Soldier I think in 1978 or 79 which I'm guessing is many years before many members on this board were even borne.

[Dragonforge]

Damn Spray...Mt Nemesis it's like there's a monkey in the can that says.."Ha he's been working hard on this one it's important and he ain't got much time"....."watch his face as I shed in the Can ....Ha"...grrr damn Can monkeys.....

as for progress well got two possibles that I'm building at the moment and another coming in the post gonna see which comes out better (or get's finished) and go from there...

Thats why on important models I pretty much use an airbrush to apply my base coats, but Ill be honest Ive never really had a can ruin a miniature. I've had cans clog and not want to spray but not screw things up.

The big thing to remember always shake it well and test it out on something first. If its spitting or doing something awful.. try and correct it first before you spray your miniature.

[matty1001]

Iv started running mine under the hot tap or a minute or two and warming the can right up. I'v started getting perfect results with Vallejo spray primer this way.

[Jubilee]

I've got my figure planned and dry-fitted the pinnings. I'm in the planning stages for the base, but have been feeling too ill this weekend to move ahead with the puttying or any painting.. :(

/ali

[supervike]

My figure is primed, painted, stripped, and started again....

oh wait....I don't get to paint, just watch....

[Hinton]

My figure is primed, painted, stripped, and started again....
oh wait....I don't get to paint, just watch....

Well, you can paint all you want, vike; you're just not in the IP.

[supervike]

I guess the same can be said for you the rest of this season!!

LOL JOKE only a JOKE!!

I can still bring the smack!!!

[Bexley]

What shop is in Anoka? where is it..I go home to Coon rapids a couple times a year and wouldn't mind checking it out. So the shop that closed, was it Phoenix games that closed its doors? That shop location was a virtual institution almost.. with its history dating back to the old Tin Soldier days. I bought my first gaming figures in the Tin Soldier I think in 1978 or 79 which I'm guessing is many years before many members on this board were even borne.

Village Games in Anoka. I can't personally vouch for it; I've only heard about it and have never been there myself.

Yes, Phoenix closed. It's been a slow year, and then the city is making all the businesses along Lake St. pay for the renovation (new sidewalks, lights, repaving, etc.) which Neil couldn't afford, so he closed up. One of the employees opened a smaller store (from the ashes, so to speak- very appropriate for Phoenix) further south, but I haven't heard much about it yet.

[Lordfishbane]

I am shooting to have my base ready tonight, then again i started playing WoW after a years break. I could get another couple of levels before I start working on the base, right? I have two whole weeks to work on it antway. :(

[Bexley]

Mine's in the stripping jar.

No, I didn't screw up.

[YoungWolf7]

I'm waiting until next weekend to get started. I'll only need maybe three days tops anyway for this one. :)

[Dragonforge]

So who will have more than one figure and more than one light source.. I'm looking at 3 figures and possibly 4 light sources..

[Uberdark]

My figure is primed, painted, stripped, and started again....

oh wait....I don't get to paint, just watch....

so you were the one with the video camera and copies of harry potter in my closet?!

[EldinTux]

So who will have more than one figure and more than one light source.. I'm looking at 3 figures and possibly 4 light sources..

Show off.

You're supposed to paint the light sources not shine lights onto the miniature to get the effect.

I've got enough time to scratch build a cave system for my mini, but I'm trying not to look too good.

Want to be the dark horse.

[LavronYor]

Speaking of Harry Potter in the closet, I can't beleive that J K Rowling outed Professopedophile Dumbledore. It made page two in my Sunday paper. I guess that Ian McKellan would have been a good replacement for Richard Harris after all.

Bexley, go for it. Two whole weeks, your opponent is no good. He probably won't even finish this round and I doubt that he even knows what OWL is. It would be a shame to talk big and then finish only a single figure, but this is only iron painter.........

[Dragonforge]

Show off.

You're supposed to paint the light sources not shine lights onto the miniature to get the effect.

I've got enough time to scratch build a cave system for my mini, but I'm trying not to look too good.

Want to be the dark horse.

Who me show off.. naaaaaaa

:bowsucker

You have seen nothing..I'm putting Micro fiber optics into Night vision goggles to get a real effect ..hehe

[Skya]

*blinks*

I have to admit to having seriously considered getting some of those little train LED lights, sculpting a water being out of acrylic medium and putting the LED inside it.... I decided that for one thing I couldn't get the LEDs in time, and for another, it probably constituted cheating. :P

[Ritual]

Using LEDs is not OSL and thus wouldn't be in accordance with the theme.

[Skya]

Well it is if you paint on additional lighting effect, but yeah I kinda thought that's what you guys would say. :)

[jed]

So who will have more than one figure and more than one light source.. I'm looking at 3 figures and possibly 4 light sources..

I'm going to try 2 models 1 light source... but, as I mentioned here, I never tried OSL before, so even that is going to be a challenge for me

[Brushmistress]

More than on figure...check!
More than one light source...check!

[Bexley]

Yeah, I'm sticking with one figure. Possibly more than one light source, but my OSL experience is pretty limited. Better to plan small and work up than plan big and DNF.

I should have my figure cleaned up and primed tonight, and I'll be running out to buy base materials on my lunchbreak.

[Uberdark]

let me just state that i hate osl.....dragonforge will kick my hiney.......and i am going on 3 hours sleep because our baby might just be collicky!!!! grrr.....

other than that all is well. rock on uber

[demonherald]

things going really slow this end the wrist is easing a bit but making everything more awkward..sounds like there will be some interesting models in this round...

[Duende]

I've never done OSL either. Any helpful tutorials out there? I have my idea and my mini started but I'm freakin' clueless.

:thinking:

[YoungWolf7]

I've never done OSL either. Any helpful tutorials out there? I have my idea and my mini started but I'm freakin' clueless.

:thinking:

Here's a basic intro: http://www.brushthralls.com/object-source-lighting-1.html

[Uberdark]

great tut. youngwolf...but what about one concerning reds yellows and oranges. got any of those?

cheers

uber

[YoungWolf7]

great tut. youngwolf...but what about one concerning reds yellows and oranges. got any of those?

cheers

uber

Not specifically for those colors, no. The technique remains the same, just substitute the light color of choice for the blue.

[Morf]

Two figures, two light sources. I've managed to convert and assemble all plus add base colors before I left on a business trip. The mad painting starts Wed. I promise you will love the idea!

[Morf]

I am shooting to have my base ready tonight, then again i started playing WoW after a years break. I could get another couple of levels before I start working on the base, right? I have two whole weeks to work on it antway. :(

Yessssss, keep playing WoW. You need to travel to the Outlands.

[Thryth]

Zero figures, zero light sources. Mmmm, I probably should change that...

[supervike]

Remember its not the size of your light source, it's what you are able to do with it.

or something to that effect...

[LavronYor]

So Lonevike, I see that your Lightsource is as big as mine. Well, let's shake on it then......


or something like that...

[Dragonforge]

So Lonevike, I see that your Lightsource is as big as mine. Well, let's shake on it then......


or something like that...

You two go compare your "Light sources" elsewhere..this is a family form!!!

:ahhhhh:

[Wren]

You two go compare your "Light sources" elsewhere..this is a family form!!!

It wasn't last time I checked, I don't think you've seen some of the pictures of Eric floating around! ;->

[demonherald]

You two go compare your "Light sources" elsewhere..this is a family form!!!

:ahhhhh:
Is that Addams or Manson????

[LavronYor]

Munsters....

[supervike]

It wasn't last time I checked, I don't think you've seen some of the pictures of Eric floating around! ;->


Poor Eric...just when you think that topic is dead.....LOL


Ok Dragonforge, I putting away my light source. It takes a while though....

[goblyn13]

Poor Eric...just when you think that topic is dead.....LOL


Ok Dragonforge, I putting away my light source. It takes a while though....

Are you really that pale Vike?

[Darklord]

he's positivley translucent

[Duende]

Hey now! I've met vike in person and he's a really nice guy so stop picking on him...

Although I can't tell you how pale he is since the sun was out, and the glare coming off of him made it impossible to look at him directly.....

;)

[Uberdark]

we all call him a ginger kid..... ;)

[LavronYor]

Hey, leave Caspar the friendly Ghost alone.....

[Uberdark]

oh yeah...starting to feel a bit better about this. started up with my piece and am getting some good blends. not as chalky as my previous attempts..... i can really feel it coming together. i am working with one mini with three light sources. so it should prove to be interesting. well gotta get to bed.... if i can get any that is. hehe.... here comes the collic. :D

[stubbdog]

well, finally picked up the minis today. Took long enough. Gonna go prep and prime them now. Man, I am so far behind. At least I spent the last couple of days sketching and figuring out how I want things so now all Ihave to do is try to make it look that way instead of spending another week doing that after I prime them like usual.

[EldinTux]

Either your all painting round the clock (probable knowing how much you lot need the practice) ro you've forgotten how to smack. I can't believe that you're all working too hard.

[Skya]

Painting round the clock. As noted by the fact that it's 5am and I'm still awake....

[demonherald]

I'm still waiting for the wrist to fix and some parts to come in the post before I make my final decisions......I need to decide wether to win comfortably or make it a closer more exciting finish...don't want to hurt my opponent too much....

[r2-j1]

I'm 95% done on the basic paint jobs on my minis. I have a few more details to pick out, and I'm trying to decide if I want to do some dark glazes to ton down the mini to better compliment the lighting impact. Then I can put them an their base so I can start to paint the OSL in reference to their position to the light source. Ill try to put a WIP shots soon. I actually want to give them a full on photo session once I have the basic paint job job done, as I think it looks pretty nice, and would under normal circumstances be the completed mini. It will be interesting to compare the pre and post OSL versions when I'm all finished.

[LavronYor]

I think I am about 50% down so that means I am really 5% done. Still, not waiting til the last three days this time...... I will try to post some WIPs soon...

[PaintMinion]

Sure, I leave and you guys just seem to have the fire sucked right outta ya! Come on! You know you're better than your opponent! You know you're going to win! Plenty of time for smack talk then! ;-)

[EricJ]

ok, I have thought about it some, here are my rough guidelines this time for grading theme:

Miniature has a apparent source of light = 3
Highlights are accurately directed from this source of light +.5
Highlights are actually highlights, not just color shifts (although they can include color shifts) +.5
Highlights aren't convincingly from the source of light -.5
Highlights are purely color shifts, not actual highlights -1
the OSL creates a convincing ambiance to the piece +.5 to +1
the OSL distracts from the miniature and adds little -.5

Just my thoughts at the moment :)

[r2-j1]

Eric, could you please explain the difference between actual highlights and color shifts?

[EricJ]

One major problem people have with osl is that they'll project a color from their "light source", but not actual highlights. This creates something like a paint explosion effect, where it looks like it's color, not light, that has come from the source. The idea is that highlights and shadows should be dictated by where the source of the light is, not so much color. Of course you can make it a colored light, but that's just more of a 2nd priority to actual placement of highlights.

Essentially make makes OSL work is placement of Brightness, not Hue. As such, a very good test for the effectiveness of your OSL is to take a photo of your mini, and then change the photo to B/W. If it still looks like all your highlights are coming from your light source, then you're good. If you can't tell your light source is causing any highlights when in B/W, then you're depending FAR too much on color shift, which won't make an effective OSL piece. At least in my opinion.

[Lordfishbane]

UGGG! Yet one more thing to think about. thanks for the tips.

[Dragonforge]

Sure, I leave and you guys just seem to have the fire sucked right outta ya! Come on! You know you're better than your opponent! You know you're going to win! Plenty of time for smack talk then! ;-)

Sue, I did smack talk my opponent and then he cried and asked me to stop..so now I will ignore him to ETERNITY..and thats a long long time from now...

So I will crush his talentless ass and move on to round three where I will have an opponent with Greater Iron...

Ooops was that smack talk..My bad!

[Brushmistress]

I apologize for my massive lack of smack talk. I've been to busy at work to browse the forums and torment Duende (though not too busy to work on my entry!).

[Uberdark]

i apologize for my smack talk ...... take that you horrible painters. i am awesome.... but seriously i dont feel right smacking since i suck at osl. :(

sorry.

[Ritual]

Uber is pants-wettingly scared, it seems! :poke:

[YoungWolf7]

ok, I have thought about it some, here are my rough guidelines this time for grading theme:

Miniature has a apparent source of light = 3
Highlights are accurately directed from this source of light +.5
Highlights are actually highlights, not just color shifts (although they can include color shifts) +.5
Highlights aren't convincingly from the source of light -.5
Highlights are purely color shifts, not actual highlights -1
the OSL creates a convincing ambiance to the piece +.5 to +1
the OSL distracts from the miniature and adds little -.5

Just my thoughts at the moment :)
Thanks for this.
It's a nice breakdown, and it's good to have guidelines up front. As we all know this can be very subjective. ;)

[YoungWolf7]

Oh, and as I said in round 1, I don't smack talk. I prefer to let the finished piece do the talking for me. (Or lack thereof sometimes...)

[Uberdark]

you know dragonforge you truly are a jerk. i tried to be nice and talk to you like an adult but you had to go and be a complete @ss. i thought a person like yourself had a brain and manners at that. so please feel free to rip all you want to, you piece of crap no talent hack!!!!!!

and btw i already know i have no way of winning this but it is for fun and you sir have made it personal.

[Ritual]

i thought a person like yourself had a brain
What ever made you think that?? :hmmmm:



Too bad I'm not in the competition... I'm pretty good at this smack talking!! :approve:

[Brushmistress]

you know dragonforge you truly are a jerk. i tried to be nice and talk to you like an adult but you had to go and be a complete @ss. i thought a person like yourself had a brain and manners at that. so please feel free to rip all you want to, you piece of crap no talent hack!!!!!!

and btw i already know i have no way of winning this but it is for fun and you sir have made it personal.

I recall vividly you saying you were looking forward to being matched up with Dragonforge if you made it to round 2, and that you would be doing the majority of the smack talking. It would appear you made the first call out. Please take it like a man (or at the very least, a well behaved child).:banghead:
If not, I will be forced to make you both wrestle in jello as a companion piece to the Duende/Brushmistress pudding match.

[Uberdark]

you know what jeff scratch the fact that i wont win.... i hope i do so i can shove the win in your face. btw i hope the a-hole classes you took pay off.

[stubbdog]

sounds like the smack talk has gone a bit past the smack...

I have no smack, mine is simply ack talk....

ack
ack
ack

[Hinton]

I will be forced to make you both wrestle in jello as a companion piece to the Duende/Brushmistress pudding match.

Ok, you and Duende in pudding match is all well and good; the thought Uber and DF in jello match is not. *shudders*

[Uberdark]

I recall vividly you saying you were looking forward to being matched up with Dragonforge if you made it to round 2, and that you would be doing the majority of the smack talking. It would appear you made the first call out. Please take it like a man (or at the very least, a well behaved child).:banghead:
If not, I will be forced to make you both wrestle in jello as a companion piece to the Duende/Brushmistress pudding match.

i totally agree that i said that at some point brushmistress. however at one point i felt he made a few low blows and sent him an email stating "hey and all that, i was a little ticked at the comments and asked if he could take it down a notch." i did not say anything mean and thought that as an adult he might be able to say "oh maybe i did take it too far." i know at one point earlier on i did with a "gay" joke and felt horrible about it and even expressed my apologies to him. so if someone is gonna get all high and mighty on me with his arrogance and posts like his previous one on page 15 of this thread then i have no problem calling him out on being an ass.

and besides i really dont want to get into any pudding matches with him.... now hinton is a whole other matter. ;)

[Hinton]

and besides i really dont want to get into any pudding matches with him.... now hinton is a whole other matter. ;)

You and I in a pudding match? I'm intriqued and repulsed at the same time. :tongue2:

[Dragonforge]

you know what jeff scratch the fact that i wont win.... i hope i do so i can shove the win in your face. btw i hope the a-hole classes you took pay off.


Yup I graduated first in my class.. :3:

John you really need to relax here.. this is all supposed to be fun and games here.. were supposed to be smack taking here.. one of the reasons I joined other than the fact that I wanted to push myself to paint outside my comfort zone.. I came here to have fun.. Obviously you don't know me enough I mean no harm and I'm just having some fun.. at your expense all be it at this moment but thats the name of the game as I read it... and by the way you were the one who asked for it..and since you love to bring up past quotes.. how about we all go back to round one where I quote.. you said...

"...if dragonforge and i make it to round 2 and are paired up i can only imagine the wit that will come from our smack talking. course most of the wit will come from me - Uberdark"

For anyone wanting to check its #156 on page 16 of 40 in the kickoff thread.

Well you got your wish.. So start smack talkin.. be a man.. grow a pair..call me a talent less hack.. as for painting OSL.. hell Ive done it once..did a piss poor job of it.. I paint NMM even worse..been praying like hell each round that doesn't come up as a theme or I'm truly screwed.. Yes I have my points I kick butt with.. and I suck at others but I'm trying to use this contest to try new things and I'm prove them.. so the only word of advice I can give you is roll up your selves and throw some mud.. get dirty..call me out.. just quit whining like a little girl or I'm gonna pick on you.. :)

[Uberdark]

dear lord jeff, you quoted me right after i stated i said that. i felt you were getting a bit too personal earlier and wanted to try and stop things before they escalated. then you went and decided to shun me and ignore my email according to you. real grown up there buddy. as for growing a pair, my balls dropped a long time ago and i have a wife and two kids to prove it. the thing is that you can be incredibly arrogant and that goes over on your posts sometimes. i felt that when you began smack talking more on this thread. i felt as if you were attacking me more than having joking around banter. so when you "called me out" earlier in this thread what did you expect? you should take some lessons in learning how to be considerate as well. so cut with the grow a pair and get over it and just paint your damn piece.

why dont you go back down into your mother's basement and get back to work.
:)

[PaintMinion]

Dang people, all grownups should know how to smack talk without crossing to the dark side. I think just cuz one person crosses over doesn't mean the other should as well--basic parenting here is that it doesn't matter who started it, it's wrong. I just talked to my 11 year old daughter about this yesterday!

So...I'll smack talk the lot a ya! I'm painting an anti entry! Yes, yes, I know I'm out of the round, but I joined up to push myself with a deadline, and I won't let a little thing like losing stop me! So let's shed some light on this contest and jolt you all out of your comfy chairs! I'm gonna stick a fork in all of you! I'm gonna bring it til you're blinded! I'm gonna...oh, well, as I won't be judged, it'll be all in my own head, but in my head I'll beat you all again...um, inclkuding Demonherald this time! Crowds will chear and call my name! Wait, no, I don't mean "Mom!" I'm thinking "Su-san! Su-san!"... what? Oh...I need to go help Cassie with her homework. Delusions can continue later...

[Bexley]

Anti-entry? Are you painting your figures to look like a black hole is stealing their lighting?

Because that would actually be pretty cool.

[Dragonforge]

Anti-entry? Are you painting your figures to look like a black hole is stealing their lighting?

Because that would actually be pretty cool.

Hey they found something like 14,000 missing black holes so maybe Sue has one of them.. On the other hand how do you loose a black hole and really how do you know when its lost?

[Frustrated Father]

I'll be happy to give you a judgin' on your anti-entry Paintminion, for that matter, anyone that wants to join along in the fun the whole length through.

Hell, for that matter, and I haven't talked it over with Jim but being as its in the spirit of seeing cool work on miniatures and building the community here at Wyrd, anyone that gets knocked out of the running for the IP crown but continues to participate on the side and post finished product along with the others (I'll create a special LOSERS section - heh) on the deadline and continues to do so throughout the rest of this contest will get a special prize package from me (ala - Wyrd), whether it be a gift certificate or perhaps an advanced copy of upcoming miniature(s). Not that we'll judge them (I may privately if asked, but otherwise its just to keep up the spirit).

So ... keep up the smack (nicely please, we're mostly adults here) and for those of you that find yourself outed of the contest in one manner or another but still want to participate in the spirit of things can work on your 'anti-entries'.

Pffft!

Putzes ...

[demonherald]

Yay minion ..but you still won't beat me....mwah ah ah aaaahh....btw thanks for saying your nice comment on your ebay listing.;-)...

CTFO Uber and Jeff remember the internet and forum posting is an unemotional beast...I'm sure Jeff meant no offense and I'm sure Uber read it when he was on yet another sleepless new baby night so play nice and let the brushes do the talking if it can't be civil......

too many people read into comments wrong on forum boards the only real way to express emotion is capitals...

I AM GOING TO BEAT EVERYONES ASSES TO A PULP AND WIN THIS THING!!!!!!!!

[Dragonforge]

I AM GOING TO BEAT EVERYONES ASSES TO A PULP AND WIN THIS THING!!!!!!!!

NOW THATS SMACK TALK!!!

[YoungWolf7]

Uberdark >< Dragonforge = the prime example of why I don't smack talk. It *always* gets taken the wrong way.

FF - that's a mighty generous offer there. I'll have to take you up on it. (It's likely to be the only way I can afford any new metal for the next 6 months or so. :D )

[goblyn13]

Hey they found something like 14,000 missing black holes so maybe Sue has one of them.. On the other hand how do you loose a black hole and really how do you know when its lost?

for that matter, if you find something that you didn't know was lost, was it truly lost?

[Dragonforge]

for that matter, if you find something that you didn't know was lost, was it truly lost?

And why is it always in the last place you look?

[Jubilee]

I took more work in progress shots tonight, but the shiney paint was throwing everything off, so I decided to do a bit more work, and use a bit more dullcote, before I post progress shots.

Bleh.

/ali

[LavronYor]

Me too....

[supervike]

re: the 'anti-Iron Painter' idea.


Very nice. I agree that captures the whole essence of the contest. The contest has always been about

1. having a group activity to build community spirit
2. encourage painters to paint.

But, some very nice side effects are happening as well.

1. Painters are pushing themselves into areas they may not have.
2. Competition is demanding more and more out of each piece.
3. EVERYONE knows that Dr. Evilmonkie is a weinie.
4. People getting voted off the island STILL WANT to hang out on the island!


Yay, you folks for making that stuff happen!

[Ritual]

You forgot...

5. Supervike can't add properly even when he's got a spreadsheet doing all the adding for him!


:poke:

[demonherald]

well finally got my components in the post and the wrist is getting a lot more flexible..amazing what a bit of time alone with the internet can do.....so a busy weekend catch up ahead...fortunately started a back up entry so if all else fails and time runs out then at least I have still got something...anyhow gotta dash ... thinking cap time.....

[supervike]

You forgot...

5. Supervike can't add properly even when he's got a spreadsheet doing all the adding for him!


:poke:

DOH!

[Duende]

You forgot...

5. Supervike can't add properly even when he's got a spreadsheet doing all the adding for him!


Just goes to show.... it's not how much data you have, it's how well you use it.


...and Vike only has problems inputing, but not working it.

(and I think they make a pill for that!)


and,
@ Brushmistress - Tag-team jello-pudding match with Hinton and Uberdark? ;)

[cdukino]

And why is it always in the last place you look?


Becouse you'd be an idiot if you keep searching AFTER you found it.

[Dragonforge]

Becouse you'd be an idiot if you keep searching AFTER you found it.

Oh but do they say that at an easter egg hunt.. maybe theres more than one..Humm have you ever thought of that... you might just find two... or a better one..

:P

[Brushmistress]

Just goes to show.... it's not how much data you have, it's how well you use it.


...and Vike only has problems inputing, but not working it.

(and I think they make a pill for that!)


and,
@ Brushmistress - Tag-team jello-pudding match with Hinton and Uberdark? ;)

Sounds great! We'll own their asses!

[Bexley]

the wrist is getting a lot more flexible..amazing what a bit of time alone with the internet can do.....

!

[Sculpta the squig]

Sounds great! We'll own their asses!

I think you already do.:laugh:

Squig

[stubbdog]

I am liking this ANTI-IRON Paintjob idea. The idea that all losers who decide to continue should paint the opposite of whatever the IP theme is. Could come up with a lot of interesting jobbers out of that.

Hack
ack
ack
ack

[Jubilee]

argggg.. I keep knocking the wings off my evil angel.. :(

[Wren]

argggg.. I keep knocking the wings off my evil angel.. :(

Well she has to prove she's evil somehow!

[Duende]

argggg.. I keep knocking the wings off my evil angel.. :(

The one you're trying to paint or the one that sits on your shoulder?

:D

[PaintMinion]

hmmm, I wasn't thinking opposite the theme, but you've given me an idea! Oh lord, but do I have time?!...!

And thanks guys, it's nice to know losers can be appreciated too. :-)

[Dragonforge]

argggg.. I keep knocking the wings off my evil angel.. :(

Have yo tried to pin them on? one thing I do lot on things like wings is to glue them in place and then from a spot on the outside that would be easiest to repair with a spot of putty I drill right through with a small bit into the figure and then glue in a pin, cut off clean and smooth over with a little putty matching details where needed.

[Bexley]

hmmm, I wasn't thinking opposite the theme, but you've given me an idea! Oh lord, but do I have time?!...!

And thanks guys, it's nice to know losers can be appreciated too. :-)

It shouldn't be too hard. Just clean the figure, build the base, assemble everything, spray prime it flat black, and you're done- anti-OSL.

[Darklord]

it could be osl during a power cut

[Frustrated Father]

Losers (sorry) need to do an entry that is in running with the theme, not opposite of it - I just called it an 'anti-entry' using Sue's words.

Since I'm giving out the goodies, I'm gonna make the rule on that one. So nyaaah!

[Jubilee]

The one you're trying to paint or the one that sits on your shoulder?

:D

the cat on my shoulder is definately no angel.. :)

I should get some kind of handicap for having to paint with a pair of cats crawling all over me for attention.. ;) :)

/ali

ps. Yes, the wings ARE pinned. It just doesn't help much when I keep bumping the wings on the table while I'm trying to paint the rest of the model. =) After a couple of good whacks, the glue breaks, it starts to wiggle, and eventualy falls away from the pin.

I guess this won't be an ebay model. Not sure it'd survive a trip..

[Bexley]

Just list it "assembly required."

[Dragonforge]

Just list it "assembly required."

No.. Assembly "MAY" be require.. that way shes covered both ways.

[PaintMinion]

Losers (sorry) need to do an entry that is in running with the theme, not opposite of it - I just called it an 'anti-entry' using Sue's words.

Since I'm giving out the goodies, I'm gonna make the rule on that one. So nyaaah!

Good! Cuz I don't have time now for the other idea! So...an "unentry? "nonentry"? "nope-not-an-entry" (nnae?) Hmmm, a token protest against the injustice of the universe....? Hmmmm, a "kick-my-but-because-my-but-got-kicked" entry, (kmbbmbgk entry)?
:stupido:

[callumrice]

Eh??

I should maybe read some of this thread...

[EldinTux]

Eh??

I should maybe read some of this thread...

Why bother it's just a load of losers whining about the theme of the entry. If they had real iron they'd have finished by now.

And yes mine is nearly done (should be complete tonight :) )

[demonherald]

aww Paintminion you didn't get your butt kicked more lightly nudged...you did beat everyone else....I'm painting like a madman this weekend got my stuff in the mail yesterday ..constructed the base cut back on the grander plan and now moving along at a rate of knots....a few issues that will either sort themselves as I go or just get thrown at a wall but great fun all the same.

[PaintMinion]

Go get 'em dh! And those with real iron work until the deadline! That's the only time the project is considered done!

[EldinTux]

Hey you either have to do it until you run outta time or you get it right first time :)

[skrivanek]

Bah! Screw this two-week timeline. I'm just starting TODAY.



Aaron

[LavronYor]

that's the spirit......

[supervike]

Remember folks, Deadline is tommorow!!

[supervike]

OK OK>..that's not really funny.

You still have a whole week, calm down!

[Uberdark]

jim i think i just crapped my pants... thanks ever so much.
hehe

[demonherald]

Remember folks, Deadline is tommorow!!
Now that would be real Iron Painting......
"Okey dokey the theme is ...........(.....???.....)"
Deadline will be decided when I feel good and ready.....all competitors will get a good 12 hr notice...."
Jim.

[eastman]

Remember folks, Deadline is tommorow!!

OK OK>..that's not really funny.

You still have a whole week, calm down!

So it's not just adding that gives you problems, calendars are also on the supervike trouble list.

:tongue2:

[LavronYor]

that was good.....


However, it is still over 6 months til April 1st....

[demonherald]

So it's not just adding that gives you problems, calendars are also on the supervike trouble list.

:tongue2:
don't forget spelling.........:wavey:

[supervike]

don't forget spelling.........:wavey:


You guys seem to forget about my good qualities!!

Like....

ah...

um....

er...

hmm....

ok, carry on...:dong:

[LavronYor]

Like, ah, um, er, and hmm are not qualities, unless they are short for...

Like...

ah....

um....

er...

hmm....

ok,

Likeable,

ahole (not), I tried aholic and wikipedia gave me this

umbral,

erudite,

and Hairy Monkey Maniac

and in that case all but one may be true....

[demonherald]

You guys seem to forget about my good qualities!!

Like....

ah...

um....

er...

hmm....

ok, carry on...:dong:
that sounds like the exact same response I get from my fiancee when I ask her to list her good points.....

[YoungWolf7]

In all likelihood I won't be starting until the 31st as I'm wrapping up this Rainy Day business.

[LavronYor]

Are you sure, you are most likely to have to paint on the day of the dead and that does not bode well.....

[YoungWolf7]

Are you sure, you are most likely to have to paint on the day of the dead and that does not bode well.....

Nonsense. Historically I've done some of my best work on Dia De Los Muertos. Probably had something to do with the blood involved, I'm not sure....

:lol:

[LavronYor]

and human sacrifices never hurt...

well the victims maybe....

[skrivanek]

Day 1:

Base constructed. Flesh and clothes of main mini complete.



Aaron

[Uberdark]

i may have to dnf now..... my arm to my mini fell off on the way into work this morning and i cant find it anywhere. so either i look harder and find it at home or i dnf.... so i will hopefully have an answer by tommorrow. doesnt life suck sometimes? grrrrrr.......

[Darklord]

that would be a real shame Uber. can you not make it look like his arm was chopped off!!!!!

[skrivanek]

Or just add an arm from another mini.



Aaron

[demonherald]

Bit of GS uber and make it look on fire...another light source.....
hope you finish That's a real bummer....

now heres a question what do you get when you cross an inquisitive toddler...100 plus paint pots ...a couple of brushes and a dozen or so models with a dad who is hanging out the washing totally forgetting he's left the child gate open....????

answer ..
A Paint area (and surrounding room) that could be entered as a Turner prize ...a few models with interesting colour schemes a lucky IP entry escape a stressed out Dad and a cute little boy who just says....sorry daddy...look painting monsters..scary..

tis a fun day.....

[Ritual]

I bet you don't repeat that mistake again, Rob!

[YoungWolf7]

Bit of GS uber and make it look on fire...another light source.....
hope you finish That's a real bummer....

now heres a question what do you get when you cross an inquisitive toddler...100 plus paint pots ...a couple of brushes and a dozen or so models with a dad who is hanging out the washing totally forgetting he's left the child gate open....????

answer ..
A Paint area (and surrounding room) that could be entered as a Turner prize ...a few models with interesting colour schemes a lucky IP entry escape a stressed out Dad and a cute little boy who just says....sorry daddy...look painting monsters..scary..

tis a fun day.....

Oh, how many times I have been there. :lol:

Now they paint their own minis on the table behind me with their own brushes and paints. ;) It gets better.

[Darklord]

now heres a question what do you get when you cross an inquisitive toddler...100 plus paint pots ...a couple of brushes and a dozen or so models with a dad who is hanging out the washing totally forgetting he's left the child gate open....????



my opponents entry??

[supervike]

i may have to dnf now..... my arm to my mini fell off on the way into work this morning and i cant find it anywhere. so either i look harder and find it at home or i dnf.... so i will hopefully have an answer by tommorrow. doesnt life suck sometimes? grrrrrr.......

seems to me you'd be better off taking pics and posting, just in case your opponent pulls a DNF...

@demonherald....kids are lucky to be so irresistably cute! It's impossible to be mad at them!

[demonherald]

It's amazing .. I spill one little drop of paint and the missus goes ballistic..
The little one redcorates a room and he get's aww did you ge a picture of him.....

[Ritual]

@demonherald....kids are lucky to be so irresistably cute! It's impossible to be mad at them!
I manage easily getting completely furious at kids! But, then I don't have any of my own... might be the explanation... :dontknow:

[Wren]

Sounds like this is shaping up to be an eventful round for some folks. I hope the missing limb is recovered and that the 'redecoration' isn't too difficult to undo!

[Dragonforge]

i may have to dnf now..... my arm to my mini fell off on the way into work this morning and i cant find it anywhere. so either i look harder and find it at home or i dnf.... so i will hopefully have an answer by tommorrow. doesnt life suck sometimes? grrrrrr.......

Whats the figure..maybe someones got one and can send you an arm..still a whole week. Hate to see you DNF over a arm.

[stubbdog]

I have 3 and 5 year old, both of whom have enjoyed painting with me since they were about 2. I have had a few occassions similar to what you describe. Maybe not to the extint that you got, but I have had a few.

Was it as bad as this one:

http://www.austin360.com/shared-gen/blogs/austin/360bazaar/media/MessyKids.jpg

[Uberdark]

found the hand!!!! problem though. it fell off as i put it into the trunk and was partially smashed. *groans* so i am off to privateer press to have one hand rush ordered to me.

[Jubilee]

Oye. That's bad.

I'm so grateful kittens don't have opposible thumbs..

/ali

[stubbdog]

Back to the topic tho, I made some pretty decent progress this weekend. Pretty happy with how it is coming out so far.

Giving away secret that worked well for me, my boys are going to be Star Wars characters for this coming Wednesday's activities. I borrowed their light sabres (one has red the other blue) and turned off all the lights and used the light from the sabres to get a good glow from the area that I am trying to have my OSL come from. Set the camera to low light pictures and it dd pretty good.

Now, I have some good pictures to go by to try and pull this stunt off.

I am not near where I would like to be, but I am happy with how things are developing so far. Just hope to give DH some good competition.

[Uberdark]

got it all set. so here's hoping i get the hand in time.

cheers

uber

[kenan]

l cant upload images to wip section why?

[Lordfishbane]

Strong lil buggers to get that top off, latex I hope?

[Frustrated Father]

You should be able to Kenan - what's it tell you?

[Morf]

Done. Now waiting to take pics. I kinda like it. I kinda hate it. At least it is funny. Sort of.

[demonherald]

I am not near where I would like to be, but I am happy with how things are developing so far. Just hope to give DH some good competition.

I'm sure you will progress hasbeen so slow for me the last week or so shaping up now but in a totally different direction to what I was originally doing...like it but don't love it kinda situation..

paint room and half of the landing is pretty much like that pic you sent except multicoloured..gotta love em...

@Ritual I was exactly the same with kids until I had my own...I think a different chemical switch is activated when you become a parent that allows you to take the most downright annoying and off the wall situation in your stride....

[YoungWolf7]

@Ritual I was exactly the same with kids until I had my own...I think a different chemical switch is activated when you become a parent that allows you to take the most downright annoying and off the wall situation in your stride....

If it didn't most children would never see their teens, and all teens would never see adulthood. ;)

[eastman]

got it all set. so here's hoping i get the hand in time.

cheers

uber

You could always sculpt a hook as a replacement (works in the pirate movies)

[demonherald]

If it didn't most children would never see their teens, and all teens would never see adulthood. ;)
:laugh:

[Uberdark]

You could always sculpt a hook as a replacement (works in the pirate movies)


true i could do that. but since the hand is supposed to be on fire i dont think that would work. it would be more like a melted hook hehehehe. :laugh:

[Sculpta the squig]

If it didn't most children would never see their teens, and all teens would never see adulthood. ;)

Or what passes for it these days :laugh:

squig

[demonherald]

true i could do that. but since the hand is supposed to be on fire i dont think that would work. it would be more like a melted hook hehehehe. :laugh:
Heated Metal??? you know you can do it ...can't be giving that Jeff character a walkthrough...

[LavronYor]

absolutely not.....

[kenan]

it said that;yor picture is upload wip section when l look there,there's nothing.

[LavronYor]

it said that;yor picture is upload wip section when l look there,there's nothing.

YOR picture? it must be one of mine.....

[Frustrated Father]

Nothing has changed for the uploads of the site. I would check first that you have the correct format (JPG) and then make certain it is under 350k. If it doesn't fall within the category the gallery tosses it.

[Uberdark]

started my osl for the first time.....and i must say i think it is looking pretty good. i am finding that if i add lots of washes right over the first layer it helps to smooth out the gradations. i am also tracking my hand and it should be in by friday. woot woot!!!!

[Duende]

It's my first OSL too and honestly, I think it's mediocre at best. :( But I'll put in an effort despite that since I don't want to DNF. And even if my paintjob is crap, I pleased with my idea behind it anyway.

[Lordfishbane]

First for me to with the same results. Not really happy with it but its early and just finishing it will be a challenge, but I WILL NOT DNF !!!

[Bexley]

It is my second, but my first was terrible. Actually, I could have maybe fixed it, but I was under a deadline, and once it was done, I had lost interest in the mini and didn't care to try. This one is... I don't know. I haven't really gotten that far yet. I have Thursday evening through Sunday afternoon to work on it, though, so that should be enough time.

[Bexley]

I did opt to stick with a primarily white light source this time, though, to minimize errors. If it works well, I may glaze in some color.